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AC WD45 
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 7:44pm |
Last Allis Chalmers WD45 off the line, s/n:236958. This is the one I was talking about a couple of months ago. Owned by Bob Lynch in OK.
Below is the text in the email he sent me.
Tractor was built in Jan 1958 , delivered in Feb to Wayne Fisher dba. Farmers Supply Company Stillwater , Okla . The Whitey Hogrefe family bought it in March , I got it from Jack Hogrefe in 1981 .
The air precleaner was dealer installed . Notice there is no crank rod in the steering casting , never had one . .Also the diesel battery box and gauge pod thru the hood . Not sure why chrome headlight rings ..... never saw a nother set ????? ,
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jnicol6600
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 7:49pm |
That one needs a nice restoration.
I see he has good taste in tractors and trucks.
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BennyLumpkin
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 8:08pm |
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Doesnt look bad the way it is other than the mismatched rear tires.....I cant stand that for some reason lol
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 8:15pm |
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in the middle of the lift arms is that a place for attaching a toplink, my 45 doesn't have that.
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45 diesel puller, 45 gas puller, ca puller
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 8:23pm |
Has the tractor been repainted at one time?
WD-45's had the name decal with the short 'A' and short 'S'
the WD-45 decal on the front doesn't look quite right.
Great find!
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AC WD45
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 8:27pm |
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Yup, not long after he bought it. I think he said somthing about oneday doing a complete restoration on it getting it as close to factory as possible.
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Unit3
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 8:56pm |
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I noticed the bracket for a top link for a 3pt hitch.
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 9:10pm |
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No picture of the serial number ? The toplink bracket is attached to a sleeve (for lack of a better word) that bolts on with the lift arms. I think somone has cut a hole for the diesel pod to fit a gas hood.
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AC WD45
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 9:45pm |
The toplink bracket covers it up I think. He has all the papers for it when it was bought new an a few picsanw with the exception of the decals it looked the exact same. I had them saved on my old computer but I lost everything when it crashed.
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jhid
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 10:11pm |
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if it were mine I would just clean it up, pit matching rubber on the rear and a few new knobs
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red and green are nice for christmas, but orange is all year round
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 10:30pm |
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I have heard rumors of late WD45s that used D-17 parts,diesel hoods and dealers painting rims cream colors on new WD45's they had not sold yet.Would not put it past A/C to want to use stuff up.
Always like the look of a WD 45 with cream rims.Knew of a WD 45 over by Pittsfield with cream rims and seat.Lady that owns it says her husband bought it that way new.He never painted anything she claims.Imagine dealers had them and wanted to get rid of them,so they would "update" them.
Edited by Pat the Plumber CIL - 16 Sep 2011 at 10:34pm
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RichinWis
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 7:17am |
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Interesting plug for the traction booster in the guage pod, looks like a gauge just painted over. Also doyou think the factory would have just welded the top link bracket onto it? also the front wheels are painted like a D series, but not the same as the D series. Very nice tractor though!
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 7:28am |
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nice looking as is , great to have most or all history !
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 7:29am |
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I like it, it aint like all the rest.
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 8:25am |
I think the reason behind the top link being bolted it to hold it inplace from moving. If it was welded it would move with the rocker shaft. I think thats what they where trying to prevent. Alsop to make it removeavle with the rest of the assembly
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 8:31am |
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Forgot to mention he also owns a WF, Farmall WD-40, and a 1*0 with a loader
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 2:01pm |
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Thats interesting. So if i am understanding this corectly they used a D-17 block on this wd-45?
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 4:15pm |
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 4:44pm |
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That is interesting does anyone know what serial # on the 45's they started to put the 17 block in
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AC WD45
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 5:17pm |
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I believe there where only 2 or 3 made in '58 so not to many numbers before this one, if any others at all.
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 9:12pm |
Wish I could actually look at the tractor, because I have many questions, one being the aftermarket decals (blue color, long A & S and wrong WD45 decals)....snap coupler latches are from a D17 with a spreader bar, diesel clutch pedal to go around the big battery box, WD45 diesel starter pull ring and extra bearing on the throttle shaft running down from the steering wheel, etc. Also the top link tube must be split to slide it over the lift arm shaft so you don't have to remove the lift arm on one side to install it??..also no paint on the lift shaft bolt heads. If that really is a D17 engine, the water pump mtg bolts to the block will taker a wrench bigger than 9/16" and the two lowest timing cover bolts will take a 3/4" wrench. Also the block will have a reinforment rib running lengthwise down both sides of the block behind each side frame. What's the serial number of the engine?? behind the carb hose.....should say 17- XXXXX .
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 9:24pm |
 DrAllis wrote:
Wish I could actually look at the tractor, because I have many questions, one being the aftermarket decals (blue color, long A & S and wrong WD45 decals)....snap coupler latches are from a D17 with a spreader bar, diesel clutch pedal to go around the big battery box, WD45 diesel starter pull ring and extra bearing on the throttle shaft running down from the steering wheel, etc. Also the top link tube must be split to slide it over the lift arm shaft so you don't have to remove the lift arm on one side to install it??..also no paint on the lift shaft bolt heads. If that really is a D17 engine, the water pump mtg bolts to the block will taker a wrench bigger than 9/16" and the two lowest timing cover bolts will take a 3/4" wrench. Also the block will have a reinforment rib running lengthwise down both sides of the block behind each side frame. What's the serial number of the engine?? behind the carb hose.....should say 17- XXXXX . |
1. tractor was redone once in 81 0r 82 (not long after he bought it) 2. top link tube is solid as far as I know. 3. cant tell. 4. cant tell. 5. See 4th picture down.
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 9:27pm |
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I'm guessing the lift arm bolts have no paint because he probably took them off to get the S/N
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 9:35pm |
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That tractor wasnt used much....look how tight the bolster pivot hole is on that wide front.....
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1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 9:51pm |
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that or it saw nearly all of it's use with a heavy implement on the back..
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 10:19pm |
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It looks to me like the decals were taped of when it was painted last. Therefore the outdated decals were put on it before the last paint job so maybe it was repainted twice.
My 45 has those same lift latches. They were given to me by a guy that had a 17 and already had a set on his. Pretty easy to bolt on.
The top link bracket is welded to whatever I'm looking at, which looks like the lift arm shaft to me. Lots of farmers had welders, I doubt this is any factory top link.
If the engine was transplanted, it should have a good engine number. If it was a one off, maybe it wasn't supposed to have been sold.
Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 17 Sep 2011 at 10:22pm
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 10:23pm |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
It looks to me like the decals were taped of when it was painted last. Therefore the outdated decals were put on it before the last paint job so maybe it was repainted twice.
My 45 has those same lift latches. They were given to me by a guy that had a 17 and already had a set on his. Pretty easy to bolt on.
The top link bracket is welded to whatever I'm looking at, which looks like the lift arm shaft to me.
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Decals are the cheap Mylar (sp?), thats why they look like that. top link is bolted to where the rocker shaft bolts up (notice the welded metal at each end)
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 11:07pm |
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I think we've got those same latches on our WD, but we have the bar that runs between the two latches in those holes that you can make out in the picture above. I presume it makes it less likely that you'll bend a lift arm, but the bar is missing from this tractor.
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Posted: 18 Sep 2011 at 7:40am |
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"D17N" isn't an engine serial number....that seems to be a casting number of some kind. The serial number is stamped on a flat spot behind the carb or carb air cleaner hose, if it even has one ??
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Posted: 18 Sep 2011 at 9:12am |
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I'll ask next time I see him on Facebook. It's sort of unpredictable because he's Deputy Chief with the Volunteer Fire/EMS
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