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Camp Lejune lawsuit??

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    Posted: 26 Aug 2022 at 12:39pm
Geesh Luweesee all these comericals on this lawsuit- what contaminated the water? How does something like this happen ? 
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How does something like this happen?!  Geez!!!! How many more instances of our servicemen getting fuctober would you like?  
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Originally posted by DougG DougG wrote:

Geesh Luweesee all these comericals on this lawsuit- what contaminated the water? How does something like this happen ? 
That was my first reaction too! how in the world can that happen for 35 years? It is a disgrace!

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U.S. Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune, North Carolina was established in 1942. In 1982, the Marine Corps discovered specific volatile organic compounds (VOCs) in the drinking water provided by two of the eight water treatment plants on base.

Water from the Tarawa Terrace water treatment plant was primarily contaminated by PCE (perchloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene). The source of the contamination was the waste disposal practices at ABC One-Hour Cleaners, an off-base dry cleaning firm. The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) used a data analysis and modeling approach to reconstruct historical contaminant concentrations. Using these approaches, ATSDR estimated that PCE concentrations exceeded the current EPA maximum contaminant level of 5 ppb in drinking water from the Tarawa Terrace water treatment plant for 346 months during November 1957-February 1987. The most contaminated wells were shut down in February 1985.

Water from the Hadnot Point water treatment plant was contaminated primarily by TCE (trichloroethylene). Other contaminants in the drinking water included PCE and benzene and TCE degradation products trans-1,2-DCE (t-1,2-dichloroethylene) and vinyl chloride. Supply wells were contaminated by multiple sources: leaking underground storage tanks, industrial area spills, and waste disposal sites. ATSDR modeled the contamination and estimated that at least one VOC exceeded its current EPA maximum contaminant level in drinking water during August 1953 and January 1985.

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and now......... for the REST of the STORY ???? ..............

Camp Lejeune Water Contamination History

William R. Levesque
St. Petersburg Times Staff Writer
October 18, 2009

     The story of what some scientists call the worst public drinking-water contamination in the nation's history is told in thousands of Marine Corps, North Carolina and federal documents produced by the EPA investigation of Camp Lejeune water in the 1980s.  That probe led to the camp being listed as a Superfund site in 1989. Camp Lejeune is a vital base to the Marines. It was founded in 1941 on North Carolina's Atlantic coast and is one of the Corps' busiest and largest bases. Like other military bases of the era, environmental stewardship there often lagged. The EPA called Lejeune a "major polluter" in the 1970s. The Corps says it disposed of wastes in those early years in ways consistent with common practices of the time. Records show the Marines dumped oil and industrial wastewater in storm drains. Potentially radioactive materials were buried, including carcasses of dogs used in testing. The camp even located a day care in a former malaria control shop where pesticides were mixed and stored.

     One significant source of water contamination was a nearby dry-cleaning business that for years dumped into drains wastewater laden with chemicals used in dry cleaning. Those included tetrachloroethylene, or PCE, a suspected carcinogen. PCE, which has multiple industrial uses, and another solvent and suspected carcinogen were also used widely by Marines on base to clean machinery. The Marine Corps has maintained for two decades that the chemicals found in Camp Lejeune drinking water in the 1980s were not regulated. But that is only partly true. In the early 1980s, the EPA did not regulate organic solvents like PCE



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sigh....
The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) used a data analysis and modeling approach to reconstruct historical contaminant concentrations. Using these approaches, ATSDR estimated that PCE concentrations exceeded the current EPA maximum contaminant level of 5 ppb in drinking water from the Tarawa Terrace water treatment plant for 346 months during November 1957-February 1987.

OK ,so NO ACTUAL DATA WAS TAKEN ???
just somebodies GUESSES..(er.. 'modelling' )......for 346 months......
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Kind of like the current warning as to "Forever Chemicals" in the rain EVERYWHERE.  Do not see anyone running around with test kits, more Evil Greenies spouting crap they guess of. 
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not to make light of the contamination... but they state the LEVELS ( maybe seen) in 1970 do not meet TODAYS STANDARDS ...... Yea, probably 10x LOWER ACCEPTABLE levels today as compared to 50 years ago... assuming the HAD standards 50 years ago ..

Burying old crap / scrap, waste oil , asbestos insulation .... all common practice in the 1950-60 s ... EVERYWHERE.. all Businesses..
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And the TRIAL LAWYERS will get rich and those effected will get pennies . 
Every time it seems the TV  adds run it means LAWYERS have found a CASH COW .
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any of these class action lawsuits and lawfirms make me puke and it dosnt matter whos right or wrong to me any more ,    my  mechanic got a settlement from one of those drug companys that got sued for several billion  and he got a check after 4 years for $1.47 
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 Right the Lawyer is the only one that's going to get any money to speak of.
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Congress set aside money for the "problem"... Why not handle thru the VA ?  Cut the Lawyers out of it..... They will end up with 90% of the money and SCREW any VET that needed the help.
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Duh, because congress is in bed with the lawyers...  See ya on the golf course, life is good!Wink
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 Most of them was lawyer and probably still have interest in law practices
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Originally posted by tadams(OH) tadams(OH) wrote:

 Most of them was lawyer and probably still have interest in law practices

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I see it's been a while since this topic was discussed, but I wanted to check in and see if anyone has had any updates or new experiences with this lawsuit. Have any of you made progress in your claims, or have you run into any unexpected hurdles? It would be really helpful to hear how things are going now and whether the process has been moving any faster.
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