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    Posted: 01 Apr 2022 at 6:46pm
Guy that pulled a planter with a ball hitch system on his planter/tractor ?? What's his "forum name" and where's he been ?? 
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If I’m not mistaken didn’t John Deere have a few models years ago with that?
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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This guy was/is a member on here and NAT, seems like he worked for the Ford tractor plant on the P/S tranny and then ended up at JD on the same project?? He did the ball hitch on his own in the early '80's ?? Thanksfor the reply

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Old JD 490 planters had a ball hitch, also 494 planters.
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Originally posted by jiminnd jiminnd wrote:

Old JD 490 planters had a ball hitch, also 494 planters.

If I recall, didn’t those planters have a chain/cable on each side of the hitch, and those activated the row markers, when you turned around at the end of the field?
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Dad bought a 490 planter in 1962. It had a pin dropped in the drawbar. The pin had a loop on the top of it and another pin went through a couple of loops on the cast iron planter hitch and went through the loop on top of the pin. That pin was held in with a cotter key, nail bent over, or a clip if you could find it. My 494A was the same way.
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Yes, they controlled the markers with a chain, some of the time, if were adjusted just right it worked.
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Have 2 494s. Both pin hitch. A small pin that drops between two lugs and some kind lock through the lug holes. Marker control chains attach to a slingshot type frame bolted the drawbar ahead of the hitch.
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Ball hitch, that just sounds painful, ooch eech!Wink
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Originally posted by jiminnd jiminnd wrote:

Old JD 490 planters had a ball hitch, also 494 planters.
Sadly, I'm going to call BS on your reply, We ran a 294 A and there was NO provisions for a "ball hitch" ClapClap !! Oddly, the 494 "elongated" hitch pin area is EXCATLY the same elongated hitch on the '86 7000 CTLOLLOL!!
Yet "AGAIN" , you guys are missing the point of my post, Who's the guy that has NOT replied on here or other forums recently ?? Seems like he was from Iowa and had at LEAST TTPP but was very cordial with his info ClapClap
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Originally posted by Lars(wi) Lars(wi) wrote:

Originally posted by jiminnd jiminnd wrote:

Old JD 490 planters had a ball hitch, also 494 planters.

If I recall, didn’t those planters have a chain/cable on each side of the hitch, and those activated the row markers, when you turned around at the end of the field?
YES !!! It was a "U" bracket that bolted to an unused hole in the drawbar of the WD/D 15 ClapClap!!! It was a "chain" that was involved Big smileBig smile !! Man, that brings back AWESOME memories LOLLOL !!!
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[QUOTE=DiyDave]Ball hitch, that just sounds painful, ooch eech!Wink[/QUOTE
Is it "momma" or Trump getting you the "OUCHY" ???
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[QUOTE=DiyDave]Ball hitch, that just sounds painful, ooch eech!Wink[/QUOTE
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by Lars(wi) Lars(wi) wrote:

Originally posted by jiminnd jiminnd wrote:

Old JD 490 planters had a ball hitch, also 494 planters.

If I recall, didn’t those planters have a chain/cable on each side of the hitch, and those activated the row markers, when you turned around at the end of the field?

YES !!! It was a "U" bracket that bolted to an unused hole in the drawbar of the WD/D 15 ClapClap!!! It was a "chain" that was involved Big smileBig smile !! Man, that brings back AWESOME memories LOLLOL !!!

Worked for a neighbor that pulled with a Farmall 656 gas, the first year I worked there, then traded if for. JD 7000 4row. Planted 700 acres a year, it was for whole 8 years I worked for them. Then went and worked for another neighbor, he had the same planter, pulled with a JI Case 830D Comfort King.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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The only farm equipment I have seen with ball hitches is hay balers. Thought it was a pain to have to deal with until I used it.  Pulling a 3 wire tie baler with it's own engine on it with a JD A. The ball hitch took a lot of the jerk out of that big plunger hitting by not having baler rattling around on a 3/4 pin in a 1 1/4 hole.
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Guess I have to confess I forgot, yes it was a separate attachment for marker control, just didn't remember, planter been gone for 40 years and my memory isn't getting any better.
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Seems like his name was Gerald ?? That was my OQ, what was his name and is he still around ??  Thanks
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been gone for a while...........
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Thanks Steve, I hope its' just a "snafu" that he's not been on here (Gerald J) .
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He’s dead.
And you are totally wrong (as usual) about him working on the PS trans.
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Originally posted by Jordan(OH) Jordan(OH) wrote:

He’s dead.
And you are totally wrong (as usual) about him working on the PS trans.
Well, thanks for the "death" notification (when was this ??), but are you certain about the PS tranny's ?
In hindsight, you're probably correct, Gerald was an electrical guru if memory serves Embarrassed


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Google Harold Brock
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Thanks Jordon, but I draw-the-line at "googling" people's names Cry , I won't stoop to it .

Google isn’t the only search engine there is. I don’t use google. And I have no trouble finding information.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Originally posted by Lars(wi) Lars(wi) wrote:

Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Thanks Jordon, but I draw-the-line at "googling" people's names Cry , I won't stoop to it .

Google isn’t the only search engine there is. I don’t use google. And I have no trouble finding information.
IMO, it's still "snooping" Confused
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Just log on to the website of the local newspaper where someone lived, pull up the obituaries and search for the persons name. The family pays to have obituaries printed and posted on line, or in the newspaper.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Guy that pulled a planter with a ball hitch system on his planter/tractor ?? What's his "forum name" and where's he been ?? 

Confused This is not snooping???


But we now know his name is Harold Brock and to look up what is on the world wide web is snooping??? Like maybe reading his obituary, which in general praising the good things the person has done, would be snooping?  Wink So I guess you are looking for gossip???LOL 
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