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190XT Engine Heater

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    Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 7:05pm
Anyone Any idea"s on where a Anti freeze Recirculation engine heater can be plummed in a D2900 engine.
At the moment a 5/8th heater hose runs from behind the fuel prime pump through the heater arond the back of the Engine and enters the Thermost housing, however it seems the Thermostat opens and no hot fluid goes through the block, the local dealer says it is plummed wrong and needs to enter the engine away from the Thermostat but had no idea where.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Is there a hose outlet ontop of the water pump ? I believe one of my 190,s is plumbed that way then goes to the block drain ; sometimes on the starter side toward the very back of the head there is a place for a heater in the freeze plug , there are 2 bolt holes already threaded for a plate with a heat element in it ; the auto parts stores say its avaliable for a 185 and thats what its listed under , but will work on a 190 if it has the threaded holes
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A friend of mine who is a mechanic and a lot braver than me plumbed my 301 turbo Gleaner G with a recirc heater. I think your engine and mine are the same but I stand to be corrected. He plumbed it by drilling a hole in the head (that's the brave part) on the injector pump side at the rear of the engine. He tapped his hole, fitted black iron pipe fittings and ran the hose to the heater and then from the heater to that fitting behind the primer pump. We've done my 210 and 220 too and it seems to work good. We have even outfitted my old Buda powered HD6G's this way. I'm a firm believer in recirc heaters-(I hate to ever have to use ether).
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Get a nipple to fit in lower rad hose. It will be to the heater and the exit to the plug behind the primer pump. This is if it's not a series 3 which has the freeze plug with two bolt holes in the rear for a block heater.  Tobe.
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The one-ninety XT diesel that I bought last summer has a lower radiator heater on it. Plugged it in for the first time last night. Going to go try it here in about 10 minutes to see if it works. Darrel
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Darrel Let me know how the lower hose heater works, I thought of that as a option, TobeMo how do I get a nipple in the rubber hose, or is it a special hose to buy.
 
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Jeff, the tractor fired right up this morning, block seemed pretty warm. It's a very straight forward installation, the heater has a sleeve on each side of it the same size as the lower radiator hose. Drain the radiator, cut a piece of the radiator hose out that is roughly the same size as the heater (roughly 2 inches) not counting the sleeves, then slide each side of the cut radiator hose onto the sleeves on the heater and hose clamp it. Re-fill the radiator, and your done. Once you see how the heater is made, you'll see how simple it is. If I talk nice to my daughter, maybe I can get her to post a picture of it later. Hope this helps, Darrel
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Darrel if you could talk nice to your daughter that would be great, my bottom hose is about 2 inch dia and S shaped and 40 years old, if I went that way I would look for a new hose.
 
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Jeff the nipple's I use are from my dealer, but I think they would be available from auto parts stores. Just drill a small hole in the lower rad hose, slip nipple through and retain with a nut on the outside. I think the tank style heaters work better for me than the in hose style (quicker heating and longer hose-heater life.) With the 1500 watt Kat's tank heater an hour or so is all mine require to start in very cold conditions.  Tobe
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