John Deere strike

John Deere strike seems to be getting serious, as the new news is JD said take it or leave it to the strikers and looking into building equipment in other foreign factories - they have 53- thats pretty impresive- Im thinking the guys should have taken the deal

JD can certainly try to move production overseas... That will be a huge ordeal in and of itself during normal times, let alone current times and the huge supply chain mess we currently have. Then how much longer do customers here have to wait for their equipment to ship after it is built, sitting in containers on boat from Europe or Asia? How much more are they willing to pay for the increased cost of shipping something overseas that used to be built 600 miles down the road? When does the price go up so much they decide to just buy something from Case/New Holland, AGCO, CAT, Kinze, etc. instead - and probably with a shorter lead time? There are plenty of hardcore JD guys out there, but if you need a new piece of equipment by X date (or if you needed it yesterday?), and your favorite brand is going to be 6 months longer than everyone else and even more expensive, what do you do? Heck, a lot of equipment is too big to fit in a container and will still require plenty of assembly when it arrives in the USA.

Not for or against.... But i remember the Springfield Illinois ALLIS Construction Machinery Plant... BIG PLACE.. 100 YEARS OLD... Union thought they ran the place.. FIAT bought 50% of the operation in the 1970s .... in the mid 1980s there was a strike... Union had bid demands...  FIAT said NO... this is what we got, take it or leave it... If you turn us down we will move the factory out of US...... Union told the company to Eat Chit..."YOU WILL NEVER MOVE THIS PLANT"..... 30 days later 500 semis moved in and stripped the place to the concrete floor while 3000 Union guys stood at the gate and watched them pull out.

Your right TomC- it is in my opinion, but they have  had good marketing and planning people, 

a fellow i know ordered a new CAT excavator last spring (march i think he said) and he still hasn't gotten it, says it's made somewhere over seas, he's been making payments on it monthly but he doesn't have it yet. CAT won't tell him when it will arrive or if it's even built yet. he thinks if it does come,it'll be stuck ona ship waiting to get to a port. i didn't know that CAT had moved their factory overseas. i toured one factory of theirs in IL when i was younger, that place was HUGE! are there any of the big brands made here anymore? coffee shop talk says there is a green combine  sitting in a field of corn near here, been there awhile, broke and no parts to fix it. i dunno why no one will go in and finish his crop? maybe the dealers aren't renting machines? maybe he burned some bridges?  i was never a union person myself, but did belong to a union where i worked. only reason is where i worked the union could save my job better if needed and if sued they had good lawyers. i was just a follower, not a leader or a real gung ho union person.  

seems it would easier to list what is available right now.

Two weeks and counting on starter rebuild for M3. Also saying parts hard to get

most all the shortages from all over is copy cats trying to get people to buy impulsivly, many stores have product in the back rooms or in on site conex boxes...they are betting that when they do put to product on the shelves...it will sell really fast! and of course the stuff that is still on the shelves is stuff that's hard to sell when other like stuff is out there. hopefully a sales ploy that will burn their a$$'s off! i know when a store does that to me...i just won't buy the items, i'll make other arrangements. others around here are following suit. there are other places to buys things. an area store has put alot of their product in the back rooms...filling them...in hopes as i described above, and another local person contacted the fire marshal, he did a walk thru and told them to stock their empty shelves with the product or he'll close the store! the store is still open, the shelves are full, wow...where's the shortage they were talking about? the big company semis are not just out driving around for something to do. alot of big stores are getting 2-3 semi loads of items everyday. maybe if ya'll would tip off your state fire marshal...things might change, he don't hafta make an appointment! sure worked in our town! there are senerios all over and some places are strapped for parts or supplies...but not all of them. i could go on and on...but most of you will get the picture!

there's no shortage of trucks in my area. dealers have just as many as they always carry. maybe they are shuffling them around more than usual to their other stores?

Just recently took a trip through 8 southern states.
They all have a shortage of trucks.
You couldn’t see the ports for the stacked up containers.

JLS retired wrote: heard a podcast other day said chip shortage is car makers using (relativly) old tech and chip makers R all after the newest and fastest (and more profitable) chips. Old lines are dropped, manufacturing facilities are changed to newer stuff, and dinosaur car makers are stuck. Said newer outfits like Tesla and some I never heard of before don't seem to have any problems because they have jumped on the latest cpu equipment. P S New green equip coming from JD s europe plants are too big for containers, comes over on roll on/roll off ships.

That too.