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Painting procedure question?

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    Posted: 19 Nov 2010 at 9:40am
Hello,
 
Where do you start when painting your tractor to minimize overspray and runs?  I have all the sheet metal, etc off, down to the frame-so not talk about the parts and pieces, just the main body/frame.  There are basically 6 "sides" to paint.  Front, back, top (somewhat), underside, and sides. 
 
My thought was to paint across front or back first, then underside, then each side starting top to bottom.
 
Thanks in advance,
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Where you start has little effect on runs except that after a couple of coats you need to remember where you have sprayed and where you have not. An old time painter told me when you get a run just chase it all the way to the bottom with the gun, LOL.  Fixing the over spray problem is fairly easy too, you can take any of several routes or combinations of them. Probably the most important  fix is doing the work correctly to minimize overspray on important easy to see parts.  I  start an the hard parts, underside, the shafts etc and finish each coat with what’s on top and easy to spray, this way you are painting over the "dust" instead of it being over the fresh painted parts. Second easy and low buck thing is equally important, ventilation. I have one box fan in my "booth" and it moves plenty of air to keep overspray from being a problem. Painting with no air movement is very difficult.  Third thing is your gun. An HVLP of quality plenty good for tractor painting was less than $20 at HF yesterday on sale. HVLP process helps a lot and will cost you net zero by the time you put on the tractor parts what would otherwise be floating around in the air.. Fourth thing is again planning, a little over spray on castings is unnoticeable to all but those who carry a magnifier but on the hood and fenders cowling etc it can look bad so you remove them and paint them separately. Come to think of it if you are not going to remove them why would you be worried about overspray to begin with? LOL Fifth thing is the paint mixture which can be fine tuning or a major problem depending on how far it is off to the hot side from ideal. When your mix is on the hot side, meaning your reducer and hardener speeds are fast for the temp you will have more problems with overspray droplets that cant "melt in" to the wet paint on the parts, when off to the extreme you have a real mess on your hands. Point being You do need to pay attention to the temps and the speed of your reducer and hardeners.



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Good info,starting to paint my I 40,taking off everything I can,Have not determine paint to use as I am applying over old paint & rustoleam rust primer,have sanded 7 wire brush all loose/flaking paint
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I painted my first this year and only had one run. I sanded it out and redid it. Very nervous but it worked out OK. I didn't use Auto paint so I don't have a mirror finish nor did I want one as its a working tractor.

One thing I recommend is having plenty of light! It really helps you see things like how the paint is going on and such

I used close to a gallon to do my B with enough left over to put 2 coats on my Sickle mower. This was using HVLP from home depot, can't remember the model but I spent $70 on it as it came with several tips and such.
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you can never have enough light.  I use a paint hood so makes it even harder to see runs and overspray.   I like to disassemble a lot of the add on parts when I paint but it then you will probably get some damage on assembly.  Also I have a lot of unpainted fasteners that way.   Mine are all yard toys and I don't really try for the show car look.
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