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    Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 5:00pm
On my car on the back of the gas tank there are three nipples back there where the fuel filler hose hooks to. One of them rusted off but the rest of the tank looks like it's all okay. The tank is 250 odd some dollars which really don't bother me all that much except for the fact that you got to pull the whole rear suspension out of the car to get the tank out. I was just kind of wondering if any of you out there would have any idea how to make or add a new nipple to the back of the gas tank without having to replace the tank.  Just looking for ideas. I already have the hole drilled out that was a Pain in the but because I tried to put a quarter inch nipple in there But the fuel tank is metal and all it did was wrecked the threads on the nipple. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Try mcmaster carr for bulkhead fitting...Wink
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Try mcmaster carr for bulkhead fitting...Wink

Just thinking about it, I think you are screwed, unless you can thread it in.  A bulkhead fitting, you have to be able to get it into position, and get a wrench on both sides...Dead
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i would take a copper tube or steel nipple that was the right size...  slide it 1/2 inch into a washer and solder it together... clean the tank area... clean the washer and jb-weld the washer to over the hole with 1/4 inch of nipple pilot into the tank.. after it dries, slop a little more jb-weld over the washer and feather out onto the tank about 1-1/2 inch diameter... dry... slide your hose over the nipple and clamp.
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Get a barb fitting, drive it in with alot of silicone - no problem
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is the hose fuel(liquid gas) or fumes(vent) ??
what make of car so others can avoid buying one..yeesh ,step one remove rear suspension...arrrgh..

if just a vent line,shine up both fitthing and tank, tin both ,then solder them,clean off flux residue real good, then JBWeld for mechanical support
I've done this to several tanks over the years..
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For snowmobiles there is a rubber grommet fitting that you drill a hole the correct size and then when you push in the metal hose barb everything gets tight.  Although this is for plastic tanks that are thicker than a metal tank. Might work long enough to get it inspected then unload it on some shmuck Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dirt Farmer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 9:37pm
Just my 2 cents worth but did anyone else realize he is talking about a gas tank, heard of too many serious accidents involving flames, torches and drop lights being associated with gas tank servicing resulting in fires and explosions. Not worth the dangers, yes dropping the rear end is time consuming and some busted up knuckles but that is nothing compared to a fire, explosion, being burnt or a trip to the ER, your task but please use sense and be careful. Also remember to safely block up the car on stands while you are under it. Safety first and foremost dont want to loose a posting member. That said is the broken fitting on the tank or sending unit. Have put hole in trunk with brass hammer and chisel to get to the sending unit and replaced unit through hole and sealed with an old license plate over the hole. That was on a 1996 Monte Carlo.
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Ingenious fellow cut a square piece out of the box of his Chevy pickup for changing fuel pumps. He drove that truck many miles and replaced several fuel pumps. With the square hole he didn't have to remove the box just work through the square hole! I would believe a person can replace that fitting by not having to remove the tank. And epoxy today can seal and hold a long time. Had a wheel bearing fail on a manure spreader and it tore up the shaft. We cleaned the shaft with a grinder and I found some strong epoxy which we put on the shaft. Centered the bearing,and it held until the spreader wore out!
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If this is the filler, or vent tube, are the tubes solid all the way to the tank? Are you sure there is not a section of hose somewhere along the route?
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Steve has the right answer for you.  Safe and easy and will outlast the car! No need to blow yourself up or get rid of car!
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In the picture the one that's broken is right next to the fill hole the big hole and then there's three little ones on the outside the one to the right is the one that's broken.
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Thanks for all the replies!
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They make a fuel tank repair that has 2 part epoxy and it's black. Comes with some fiberglass cloth. I used it on a hole in a fuel tank, seemed to work pretty well.
I think it came from Oreilly's
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You have my curiosity up, what kind of vehicle is this tank for
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Gas eats most silicones. Just FYI.
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They make a bung that installs and tightens from the top. Here's a link to one. I'm sure there are others out there. This was the first one I saw.

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Originally posted by JTOOL JTOOL wrote:

Gas eats most silicones. Just FYI.

I have been amazed at how well JB weld stands up to oil, gas, and diesel.


I have a transfer tank with the same JB weld patch for over 20 years could be real close to 30 years.
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Guess you know this, but JB Weld is not silicone.
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Guess you know this, but JB Weld is not silicone.

Wink Yep I know that. Was just saying since someone had talked of "gluing" a fitting on JB weld has lasted for me. Maybe I was just lucky? But I would give it a chance before removing tank to weld, braze, or solder on it.
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Yeah, of course you knew, and I knew I was pretty sure you knew, ya know? 
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Originally posted by Riprock Riprock wrote:

They make a bung that installs and tightens from the top. Here's a link to one. I'm sure there are others out there. This was the first one I saw.



Seems like the best way to go.
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Originally posted by Dirt Farmer Dirt Farmer wrote:

You have my curiosity up, what kind of vehicle is this tank for


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I was just thinking about this and was wondering if a tire tube repair valve stem would work.  If it's a fume tube it seems like it should be okay.  If it's for fuel you might have to find some sort of anti gas adhesive to stick it on with.

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