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john(MI) 
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Posted: 11 May 2021 at 6:20am |
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Looks like there are going to be even more "Found On the Road Dead". Ford is going to Launch the new electric F150 on May 19!
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Posted: 11 May 2021 at 7:20am |
Sounds like a good farm truck. 
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Posted: 11 May 2021 at 7:23am |
Wait a second, it might be the right fishing truck if you take the right gal with ya. Just make sure it's got a 10% charge to get you to the pond, then find something to do when you wait for a ride after your done fishing. 
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Posted: 11 May 2021 at 7:42am |
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Brother will get one when available for test drive reports....It's gotta be better than the E-stang he brought here last week.
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Posted: 11 May 2021 at 8:32am |
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Hea Bouncing Jugs.... where did you find the DATA about the trucks expected usage , work, life expectancy, service intervals ???
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Posted: 14 May 2021 at 3:06pm |
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Personally, I don't understand the logic of Ford marketing.
They have stopped making cars except for Mustang and will continue making trucks. But the future vehicles will be electric. Electric vehicles are much more expensive than gasoline powered vehicles and those are already overpriced too.
The average folks buying Mustangs and F150's are being priced out of the market. The folks making the big bucks usually buy sports cars and luxury sedans, not Mustangs and pickup trucks.
Just my 2 cents....
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Posted: 14 May 2021 at 3:32pm |
the logic... Ford sells 8X more F series trucks than ALL cars combined... Ford is in the business to make a profit... 'bottom line'... make/sell what the customer BUYS !!
I can get the real numbers from brother,but last year it was 8 times as many trucks than cars.... It makes sense to me and cents to Ford.....
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Posted: 14 May 2021 at 4:07pm |
The folks making the big bucks usually buy sports cars and luxury sedans, not Mustangs and pickup trucks.
Dont kid yourself... Unless you are talking about the top 1%...... FORD can give that up and concentrate on the other 99%.
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Posted: 14 May 2021 at 4:30pm |
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actually most of the 'folks making big bucks' LEASE their vehicles....
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Posted: 14 May 2021 at 9:56pm |
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F150-- the most recalled vehical in Detroits history. Wonder how many recalls this thing will set off?
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 4:01pm |
The whole auto industry needs to remember Henry and his build a car the working man can afford. Turning to google in 1.0002 minutes I get, in 1920 the average salary was $3269.40 and a model cost about $850 ( dang old car dealer, even back then could not pin them down ). Today it says average salary is $40,000 and F150 is anybody's guess as I heard many cars and trucks are selling for more than factory price as the need it NOW crowd has the credit. But I am guessing you could be a long time finding a F150 for less than $40,000 today.
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 4:25pm |
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Dont blame FORD... they only make what PEOPLE WANT TO BUY... Why build CARS for $12,000..... People want $50,000 trucks... THATS WHAT SELLS.
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 5:53pm |
everybody HAS to have a 4wd, 4 door,big azz motor, pickup truck with a zillion 'options' ( that are really standard...... TRY finding a 'base' vehicle..like a 6 , stick shift reg cab, 8' box...they don't exist.....
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 7:49pm |
 jaybmiller wrote:
everybody HAS to have a 4wd, 4 door,big azz motor, pickup truck with a zillion 'options' ( that are really standard...... TRY finding a 'base' vehicle..like a 6 , stick shift reg cab, 8' box...they don't exist.....
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And many of them won't even haul their trash to the landfill in the bed, they have to have an itty bitty trailer for that. So why have a pickup 
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 7:51pm |
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Again, THEY ONLY SELL WHAT PEOPLE WILL BUY... Nobody wants a PLAIN JANE TRUCk any more.. I have a 6 year old F150... 400 HP and hauls 1800 pounds in the bed or 10K trailer ... thats enough for me.
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 8:18pm |
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 8:34pm |
You watch the WRONG DOCUMENTARY............. FORD lead the way with PAY PER HOUR for his people... NIGHT SCHOOL FOR FREE to get a HS education...Automated lines so the guy had an easier assembly job.
------------------------- In January 1914, Henry Ford started paying his auto workers a remarkable $5 a day. Doubling the average wage helped ensure a stable workforce and likely boosted sales since the workers could now afford to buy the cars they were making. It laid the foundation for an economy driven by consumer demand.
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Posted: 15 May 2021 at 11:45pm |
Here's a price history of the F150 https://www.thedrive.com/news/34333/heres-how-much-the-ford-f-150-has-increased-in-price-over-the-decadesPeople haven't stopped buying cars but Ford has stopped making them. Ford markets what they want people to buy. Of course they want to make fewer more expensive vehicles. It's much easier that way. That's the model for Tesla. Market to the wealthy, sell them hyper expensive electric vehicles.
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Posted: 16 May 2021 at 5:17am |
re: It's a wonder he lived as long as he did as far as the way he treated employees
And yet China is the World leader in making stuff off the backs of the Chinese in THEIR sweat shops...
and... I've yet to see an AFFORDABLE e-vehicle that CAN replace ANY gas powered version. Please include total real costs for a 20 year lifespan if you think of one...
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Posted: 16 May 2021 at 8:28am |
So i ALWAYS wanted a little car, but FORD stopped making them and FORCED ME TO BUY a F150 ??? YEA RIGHT..
PEOPLE STOPPED BUYING CARS, be cause they DONT WANT THEM... Everyone is buying a TRUCK, so FORD is DOING WHAT THE MARKET WANTS... thats SMART BUSINESS... Dont matter what YOU do with YOUR TRUCK... If you want to use it to carry groceries or a case of beer, thats fine... ITS YOUR TRUCK... YOUR MONEY!
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Posted: 16 May 2021 at 10:07am |
dee_veloper wrote:
Personally, I don't understand the logic of Ford marketing.
They have stopped making cars except for Mustang and will continue making trucks. But the future vehicles will be electric. Electric vehicles are much more expensive than gasoline powered vehicles and those are already overpriced too.
The average folks buying Mustangs and F150's are being priced out of the market. The folks making the big bucks usually buy sports cars and luxury sedans, not Mustangs and pickup trucks.
Just my 2 cents....
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I think that has all changed. Luxury trucks(High Country or Ranch King) now compete against M-B and Audi.
Trucks used to be affordable. They're still just simple body-on-frame vehicles with poor ride quality over rough roads.
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Posted: 16 May 2021 at 9:52pm |
Not a expert on Henry Ford but there where lots o worse place to work than at Ford in the day. Once he got things going cause he was poorer than most anybody here when he started. He decided he should build a car the workers building them could afford to buy. That is why I looked at price of car and wages in 1920. The model T cost a less than a 1/3 of the years wages of the average wage. Google says today $40,000 average wage how many car/trucks are under $15,000 today to get about the same percentage of wages s back then. But those who said nobody wants a plan and simple car without gizmos' is correct as well. But sure would nice to see for sure. Was not saying anything about the current Ford company or any other. I suppose the union labor in USA car building plants can all afford $60,000 rides. But I sure don't see how I can, so I need to fix one of trucks sitting here and spent my money on getting them up in shapes. As none have been run in salt from icy roads. But all have over 200,000 mile and need something. |
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Posted: 16 May 2021 at 10:15pm |
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Not too many Model T's ran over 200K miles... and still going ?
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Posted: 16 May 2021 at 10:39pm |
Here's some stats on what people are buying. ~70% are crossovers, suv's and small-mid size cars ~20% are pickups
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