7030 hydraulic issue

The power steering pump charges the piston pump, so if you didn't take it apart and at least inspect it, there may be trouble. Using anything but an AGCO set of hydraulic filters is asking for problems.

I would say 30 hours is about time for a aftermarket filter to collapse       MACK.

I was hoping to get a name of someone in the Midwest an pay for shipping cause the closest AGCO guys don’t help much

stollerfarms wrote: I was hoping to get a name of someone in the Midwest an pay for shipping cause the closest AGCO guys don’t help much

shipping from the Midwest would be crazy expensive. You need 1-70269921 and 1-70269922

BUT, they are made to AGCO's specs and many of these other "after-market" filters may be the right shape and size, but they are too fine of micron and they PLUG easily.  I had this argument with a Customer 25 yrs ago that his hydraulic problem was the brand XXX filters he installed in his 7020 tractor. He absolutely couldn't believe it, but that's what the problem was.

Starving the gear pump for oil. He drove the tractor 30 miles for me to fix it and I could hear the pump cavitating when he drove in. I told him it sounded like a problem with the left-hand filter door. He told me not to change the filter because it was new. Things went downhill after that. Two new AGCO filters and he was fixed and mad at me for changing his new brand XXX filters and throwing them away.

I have a 7020 powershift and I use Wix filters. The trans filter seemed to be clogging too easy but I think it was the generic 821 fluid I was using. I changed to the John Deere fluid that is nice and clear. I think that is better. 

my bet is that back when Dr Allis had those problems with filters, many others did too, and the aftermarket companies usually do try to correct issues. They probably thought they were doing a good thing by offering their filter with smaller micron rating, which in theory sounds great, but if it cannot flow the volume, it ends up causing more problems. Hyd systems don't need as small a micron filtering as diesel fuel injection systems. 

I'll start something else while we are on that subject. We started selling Wix products where I worked back 2003. I had to go to the Wix factory in North Carolina for a couple days training. They said the micron deal was a basically a scam. That somebody thought it up to sell more filters probably. They said they had to start saying it too because every other filter company was doing it. They said you can't grind up paper and mix it all up and roll out a sheet of it and say it is 10 or 20 micron or whatever. Also they said that as the filter is used and traps particles that the holes keep getting smaller. They said in a way the filter was doing its best filtering about the time you take it off because the holes keep getting smaller. I ask if the filters they made for Carquest and Napa were any different than the Wix and they said the label was the only difference.

Ordered agco filters, an to my surprise they aren’t much more expensive then wix. so I’ll take it! I did notice it keeps trying to suck the 2in o ring in the tube

Second Oring keeps sucking into the filter housing ?? which filter?? the LEFT filter ?? Maybe the non-AGCO filter has been too short, not opening the oil door enough....