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Scott B 
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 5:39pm |
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Just drove past my fill up spot. Diesel is now $2.99 a gal and a solid $1.00/ 30% increase from where it was in Dec/Jan (it was actually less than gas then).
Not to get political but it’s not lost on me that this also means gas tax revenue jumped 30% as well.
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festus51
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 5:47pm |
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Scott I'm 75 miles SW of KC. Diesel here jumped .80 a gal in last two months. It is $3.05 to $3.15. I suppose it won't stop till it gets to at least $4-$5 a gal.
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DougG
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 6:21pm |
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Here in central Mo gas went from $2.44 to 2.79, today,,diesel is $3.10 - up up up and away she goes
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 6:24pm |
Blame it on Global Warming ???  ...... 
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festus51
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 6:55pm |
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Steve I didn't hear any talk about global warming back in Feb.
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DMiller
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 7:09pm |
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Diesel at the Interstate stations I passed today HERE was $3.09/g
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Kansas99
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 7:58pm |
Guys come on, high fuel is a small price to pay to save the world from global warming. I went thru Utica KS yesterday and they said they haven't seen the ocean yet, so it's working!!!! I did stop and pick a few shark teeth out of a shale bank though. 
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 8:43pm |
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Economy on the move when energy prices increase....
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 8:55pm |
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Economy does effect price, but a moving economy dont make prices jump 30% in 2 months... More demand and LACK OF SUPPLY ( actual, or forecast) has a big effect.
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HudCo
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 11:08pm |
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the whole economy revolves around the cost of fuel when fuel is high people tighten up and dont have extra money to spend becuase its al spent on the higer cost of going to work heating there homes and fuel surcharges on the things they have to have
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Dave H
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Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 7:56am |
Relax folks, the goal is 5 bucks for Memorial Day driving.  I ain't going any further on this subject.
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Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 10:54am |
Dang I need to learn more computer skills so I could do the big emoji guy rolling the ground.
Only us dumb farmers work anymore,  making cheese for the whole world.
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 5:45am |
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As for increase in ‘tax revenue’ when prices increase, that would be true IF the fuel has a ‘percentage’ tax tied to the price. Most fuel has a flat ‘per gallon’ tax.
When more gallons are sold, then more taxes are collected.
When less gallons are sold, then less taxes are collected.
There are a few municipalities that impose a ‘sales tax’ on fuel, but that is not common.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 5:49am |
Hay Lars ,come on into Ontario... we have taxes compounded on taxes oon every drop of gas and oil up here.... we pay 13% on top of the 'gasoline' tax that's inside the 'pump price'. If I can stomach the ordeal, I'll fins a link/chart as to what I have to pay here...
OK here's one...
it's OVER 35% + 13% on top ( I think....)
It works out that for every $3 at the pump OVER $1 goes to the guvs.
legally there's supposed to be a sticker on the pump explaing this, haven't seen them in YEARS
Edited by jaybmiller - 11 Mar 2021 at 5:54am
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 6:39am |
Saving the world $1 at a time.
Now if they could just stop Niagara Falls from moving 3ft. a year.
Edited by Kansas99 - 11 Mar 2021 at 6:40am
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 6:45am |
 jaybmiller wrote:
Hay Lars ,come on into Ontario... we have taxes compounded on taxes oon every drop of gas and oil up here.... we pay 13% on top of the 'gasoline' tax that's inside the 'pump price'. If I can stomach the ordeal, I'll fins a link/chart as to what I have to pay here...
OK here's one...
it's OVER 35% + 13% on top ( I think....)
It works out that for every $3 at the pump OVER $1 goes to the guvs.
legally there's supposed to be a sticker on the pump explaing this, haven't seen them in YEARS
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 2:00pm |
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In Sioux City, IA. on Wednesday, saw at Cenex station where I turn onto highway. The NO alcohol unleaded and winter treated truck diesel boith at $2.99 / gallon. At least 40 cents higher than at Xmas time.
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DMiller
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 5:40pm |
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Local Libtard TRIED to call it out as MO Fuels Tax Increase, was shot down as the State Legislature JUST THIS WEEK approved that cost increase.
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 5:59pm |
For starters , a poster mentioned "recent fuel taxes", I'LL call BS on that theory  , SECONDLY, apparently most of you got exiled from the "politics" section that you have to spew vomit here on SBVT ??? Texas is the root of all fuel pricing.
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 6:03pm |
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STILL Not got a CLUE as to how fuels refining occurs or where. Go BACK to school freegas
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 6:11pm |
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Its all supply and demand... Demand is starting to go up, and the Present Govt has made regulations to CUT the supply ( more in the FUTURES, but also NOW)........... so prices go up.. very simple.
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 6:11pm |
DMiller wrote:
STILL Not got a CLUE as to how fuels refining occurs or where. Go BACK to school freegas |
Where did I mention "REFINING" ??? You need to read a little better .
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 6:14pm |
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freeGas = Texas is the root of all fuel pricing........YOUR WORDS.
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 7:52pm |
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Not sure what Freedguy is trying to explain.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 4:42am |
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Freegas has no concept of what he speaks so throws crap against the wall and changes value meaning to suit his flavor of the moment.
So Freedgas
Explain your theories as to HOW Texas is running prices up, Nationwide.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 5:33am |
re:
Its all supply and demand.
yeah, whoever has the Supply, DEMANDS their price ! Has nothing to do with fairness,reasonable profit or being 'neighborly'...just how much can someone rip outta someone else's wallet !!
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Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 6:12am |
jaybmiller wrote:
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Its all supply and demand.
yeah, whoever has the Supply, DEMANDS their price ! Has nothing to do with fairness,reasonable profit or being 'neighborly'...just how much can someone rip outta someone else's wallet !!
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How do you price your garlic Jay? Just ask the folks what they'd like to pay?
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Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 6:23am |
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Off topic I know but was at a training seminar some time ago as we were transitioning to flat rate pricing. When asked how much, the presenter said "all of it". They'll make more.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 6:39am |
re: garlic pricing local stores charge $10 a pound... so that's what I charge, used to only be $4.
hopefullly it'll be up soon, should get 250-300#s this year,so close to $3000. 'seed' input cost is zero, maybe 1 hr 'seat time', 2hrs to harvest. Overall maybe 8-10 hrs labour. Garlic has pretty nice profit margin.
Edited by jaybmiller - 12 Mar 2021 at 6:43am
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Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 6:53am |
jaybmiller wrote:
re: garlic pricing local stores charge $10 a pound... so that's what I charge, used to only be $4.
hopefullly it'll be up soon, should get 250-300#s this year,so close to $3000. 'seed' input cost is zero, maybe 1 hr 'seat time', 2hrs to harvest. Overall maybe 8-10 hrs labour. Garlic has pretty nice profit margin.
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Nice profit margin, and you don't have nearly the overhead costs of a store, so you're gouging people?
Point is, you're in business, and more/less sell for what the market will bear, and have to move with the ebb and flow. If you don't, you'll either drive customers away with high prices, or leave easy money on the table because customers would actually be willing to pay a little more. If you are in business to make money, and that is the purpose of most businesses, you want to charge all you can.
You aren't being any more neighborly or fair or anything else to your customers than anyone else. You research the market price and charge it. And your costs are such that you make a bigger profit percentage than the guy who grew the garlic shipped to the store (at least on the garlic shipped to the store). Why are you so mean and greedy?
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