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    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 8:25am
Looking for first hand recommendations for a multiple dog tracking collar/system. I will be in the mountains of Pa so cell service is sketchy and intermittent so I do not think the cellular based ones will work. Need one that goes direct to a handheld tracker. Do they also come with correction sound/shock? Any advise? Thanks
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Whoah,  am gonna follow this thread.

My wife is on my case to get a tracker for her lab, cus she thinks the coyoties are gonna eat her after i kick her but outside to do her nightly duties.
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lots of BLE units for $10 or so. 'Bluetooth Low Energy'.range about 150', you get a 'circle' of here_i_am of about 30'..... NONE are accurate....
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  Ever watch the Mountain Men and the guy that run mountain lions with his dogs. Don't know what kind he uses but follows the dogs for miles in the mountains
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My son who is not here, but his dog is, knows more about this.  When he comes to pick up Zues, I will ask him and give more info if I can.  But I know that he hunts his dog, no tracking needed for him, but a few guys that he hunts with use them.  They hunt up in PA near Warren, Russell City area I Think????  National Forrest area.   And use them. I know that Nick has a collar that is gps, and accurate to about 10 feet. Not sure how it works, but he knows where his dogs are, how fast they are running, how many feet/miles etc. 

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There are very few tracking systems that will generate signals powerful enough to carry long distances through foliage and rocks.  Any transmitting frequencies with short-enough antenna lengths will be direct line-of-sight, and a dog collar with anything more than a watt of transmit power will require a large battery, and of course, be emitting near-microwave energy within inches of the animal's brain stem and eyes.

The 'professional' way, is to use a low-power transmitting beacon, and a hand-held directional antenna to 'sweep' an area for a beacon.  Then use the direction and intensity to get a good idea of where to look.

When radiolocating crashed airplanes, or hunting out hidden transmitters or noise sources, we use multiple points of detection, with vector and strength to multi-point triangulate a signal... techniques proven since WW1... but with higher frequencies, the recieve antennas get much more compact, and can be built with much higher forward gain, and much greater null suppression... meaning, they're more sensitive in the pointed direction, and less susceptible to noise coming in from any other angle.

HAMS refer to it as "Fox-Hunting" (if they're moving)... or "Hidden Transmitter Hunting (if they're stationary). we use it to find sources of stray noise, to pinpoint damaged radio systems causing out-of-band interference, to locate illegal operators, and to track operations of criminals who aren't bright enough to know that the world CAN hear them.

You don't need any sort of license to make, own, or operate a radiolocation 'kit'... and it's not hard to make.  A receiver sensitive enough, and selective enough to HEAR the frequency you wanna listen on, and an appropriately made 'fox hunting' antenna... with a short connection cable to the receiver.  A good-quality handheld scanner, a pair of earphones, and the antenna, a st**dy pair of hiking boots, a map, pencil, and a compass is a good start.  An inline attenuator (to reduce signal strength) is necessary once you get close, as the signal will be so strong that the antenna will not effectively 'null' out a direction, but in dog-tracking, once you're that close, you'll probably (well, hopefully) hear him diggin' in the shrubbery.

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If money is no object, I've heard these work well. 
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/outdoor_recreation/sporting_dogs/c12520-c12522-p1.html

The coon hunters that have them love them.  I think the neighbors will do up to 6 dogs at once.  They have so many options now that you almost need someone to help you figure out what you need.  I believe I read that they can do up to 20 dogs for something like 10 miles.  LOL  Would have came in handy years ago when the neighbor and I were on a 3 mile no road creek and old "Ace" was going back and forth as we were going back and forth the opposite direction, he failed to tree and loading up and leaving at 11 o'clock turned into 2:30am.  Coonless to boot! LOL


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