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Allis B PTO Delete

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    Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 9:25am
I have been debating this project for a while.  To remove or keep my PTO.  I always thought the B's with the rear end cover plate was a different feature you don't see too often.  Since I don't have any powered implements to go with this tractor I decided it's time.

The unsuspecting victim.

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The seat and seat frame removed.  Draining the transmission fluid.


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The PTO unbolted.  A couple of taps with a mallet and the seal was broken.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BEK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 9:34am
The PTO is off.  I was amazed at how easy it was to remove.  Slid right off.  Thanks to those who provided info on how much a PTO weighs.  It was heavy but easily handled by me.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BEK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 9:37am
FYI.  I'm keeping the PTO.  It will stay with tractor in case I want to put it back on.  There was nothing wrong with it and it does work well.

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Everything inside looks great!  Not bad for a 70 year old.

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All cleaned up and ready for the cover plate.

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Cover plate installed.  Filled the transmission with new fluid.  No leaks yet.  Wink  I just need to bolt the seat frame back on the tractor.  I don't think the cover plate makes the tractor more useful, but it does clean up the rear end.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote C in Concord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 12:07pm

I can tell you put a lot of thought into what you do BEK.  Cookie sheets on the floor, asking about the weight AHEAD of time, how clean that tractor is, inside and out...  Well done!

 
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BEK,  You have a very unique B.  I can't remember any without the PTO.  
You know, that was how they came from the factory.  The PTO's were installed in the field.  They were heavy and awkward to install but there was a method to it.  You got a lift and a swing so that it went on the top stud.  Then you moved it into place.  Secret was to get the shifter square on the drive gear properly.
We  sure put enough of them on.   
Nice Looking B.   Thanks for taking such good care of my favorite.
Good Luck!
Bill Long

ps:  I do remember seeing a CA - I think - with a delete plate.  I talked with the owner and since he was pulling with it he did not want power to be drawn off by the PTO and the hydraulic. 


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My B did not have a PTO and belt pulley assembly until recently I think when one was installed by the previous owner. When I bought the tractor from him, he included the cover plate. I have it in the shop. 
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Not many Bs with the large PTO shaft.
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Originally posted by Lon(MN) Lon(MN) wrote:

Not many Bs with the large PTO shaft.

I thought the same thing - that larger PTO is a nice feature to have when you're using the PTO feature of the B or C.  Not that there aren't adaptors, but it just simplifies things.
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Thanks for all of your input guys.  It was a fun little project I thought I'd share.  
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