Bought another 160

Hey,

We bought another 160 this morning, it was listed as a parts tractor on our local Craigslist.

It looks pretty good for a "parts machine" the engine is free and should be running shortly, the transmission is in fine shape and everything seems to work correctly, with the exception of some missing sway arms on the three point it's a pretty complete machine.

We paid $1,000 for the tractor, loader and two buckets. I think we did very well on this buy but will be able to better say once I have the engine running.

Right now I have already bled the fuel system, have fuel at the injectors but cannot get the engine to fire, the diesel is fresh and the tank was dry when we got the tractor.

The tractor has been sitting for probably a year since it was last run so the fuel probably degraded, should I swap the injectors with the ones from our other 160 to rule out a clogged injector problem or is their something I should be looking at first. I believe I have an extra fuel filter on the shelf so I will change that shortly.

Anything else I should be checking in the fuel system?

Thanks,

Erik

Goose wrote: I'm thinking we're going to need some photos of your new acquistion.   Sounds like a really good find.

How about this...

All you experts help me get this little starting issue worked out and I'll post up a nice pile of pictures, sound fair? :)

I'll post up some pictures tonight after I finish work.

Erik


Edited by Fellenz - 20 Oct 2010 at 2:05pm

We're in about the same boat, I have very limited experience with diesel engines though I am having to learn fast!

Pictures will be coming (hopefully tonight) I just have to grab the camera and take a trip to the field.

Erik

farmtoybuilder wrote: tighten lines at the injectors and only leave one them lose enough to let fuel leak when cranking over. When it starts tighen the line.  does it smoke out the exhaust when you crank it over? If its getting fuel it should smoke out exhaust. Could have stuck valves also. Hard to say with seeing and hearing! Let us know.

I tried leaving one injector cracked but it made no difference. It does not smoke out the exhaust when I'm cranking it.

What would the symptoms of a stuck valve be? I'll pull the valve cover tomorrow and see if anything looks suspect.

It's acting like it's not getting any fuel, I have fuel on the pressure line at the injector, and the tip of the injector looks great so coupling that with my limited knowledge on these engines I'm stumped...

I'll go take some pictures now.

Erik

Breeze wrote: Maybe a quick shot of startin fluid to see if she's willing, and then go from there.

I tried that and got it to cough a little but nothing beyond that.

She looks like she's had a rough go at it. Good luck with her and keep us posted. 

Ed,

I'm assuming you mean in the injector pump, right?

What makes you suspect this?

Thanks!

Erik

Modern diesel DOES go BAD! I have seen numerous injection pumps come in the door at work, with the complaint of "it ran last week when we put it in the shed. Came out to use it and it will not deliver fuel" Bio-Diesel goes bad alot quicker than diesel used to, and also gets algae growing in it. If it has been sitting for a year, the fuel in the injection pump has gone bad, and gummed everything up. smell the fuel, smell like latex paint? Take the cover off the side of the inj pump with 2 5/16 head screws, look in there, I bet it's all brown and nasty. Try the pump off the other tractor, since it was running recently. Good luck with the 160's, Ed.

Edited by injpumpEd - 20 Oct 2010 at 9:21pm

injpumpEd wrote: Modern diesel DOES go BAD! If it has been sitting for a year, the fuel in the injection pump has gone bad, and gummed everything up. smell the fuel, smell like latex paint? Take the cover off the side of the inj pump with 2 5/16 head screws, look in there, I bet it's all brown and nasty. Try the pump off the other tractor, since it was running recently. Good luck with the 160's, Ed.

Hi Ed,

I will pull the cover off the pump and see what I can see. I have no doubt that the fuel had gone bad, it had the latex paint smell and also looked like it had turned yellow?

If the injector pump is gummed up and causing the problems will I need to send it out to be worked on or is it easy enough to clean out that I should attempt it?

Thanks,

Erik

Another update,

I have swapped the injector pumps between the two tractors, I opened the access cover on the pump that came from the non-running engine and it was filled with old fuel.

Now with the other pump on the tractor I still cannot get it to start, though I do have some smoke in the exhaust this time so it is getting fuel.

Now for my stupid question. Do I need to time the pump to the engine or will it already be timed due to the alignment pin?

I will be calling a friend who has worked on Perkins diesels in the past and see if he can come out for an afternoon to give me a hand with this.

Erik