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FREEDGUY
Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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Why is it that there are 60-100 acre fields that will have at least 1-5 HUGE trees (normally oak) smack dab in the middle of the field that has/have been planted/tilled around for years ?? I'm not talking about fence line trees either, these thigs are in no straight line/orientation at all . I just can't understand why these obstructions haven't been removed but hoping those of you that farm around them will chime-in . Thanks
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nella(Pa)
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Ask Joyce Kilmer!
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tomNE
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tillage must not be the answer as you said you've done that for years!
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Kansas99
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Conversation piece.
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chaskaduo
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Probably provided shade for lunch break etc years ago when it took longer to get the fields work done. As time wore on, more pressing work to get to and get done so the trees where never removed. ???
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nella(Pa)
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TreesBY JOYCE KILMER I think that I shall never see A poem lovely as a tree. A tree whose hungry mouth is prest Against the earth’s sweet flowing breast; A tree that looks at God all day, And lifts her leafy arms to pray; A tree that may in Summer wear A nest of robins in her hair; Upon whose bosom snow has lain; Who intimately lives with rain. Poems are made by fools like me, But only God can make a tree. |
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FREEDGUY
Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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FREEDGUY
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I'll bet it's a REALLY good conversation piece when digging out a tree branch out of the throat of a combine or baler LOL!!!
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A-C_220
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JC-WI
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Jeff, Ever stop to think about some people may have sentiments to that parcel... Like that was their home place or that was their great great grandfather that planted those trees there or built his farm there and had worked the land from that building site and rested his horses under the trees at noon or ... I have watched small farms disappear and trees took over the landscape and the fences fall down and the fields become overgrown with brush and then pines or boxcelders or some other tree that was conducive to the land and then 40 or 50 years later a bulldozer comes in and bulldozes down the old rotten down buildings that have been abandon for that long of time and clean out the fields and the former boundaries diaappear and becomes part of bigger fields... and all the hard work the forefathers did to grub and clear the land that took years to clear is recleared in days. And the land is worked and planted in hours... Takes only a minute or two to turn that steering wheel to go around that group of trees... and provides some refuge to wildlife... But sadly the next generation that will farm the land will probably just doze them trees out and fill the holes in and not look back because they will be keeping an eye on the profit line... and the land will only be the generator of the profit and nothing more. The profit will be what dictates the tears and heart breaks and joy, not so much the love for the land from the laborious toil and sweat. The old farmer knew every foot of his land and held that in his mind, while the new age farmer has any retained info stored in his computer... sitting 6 or 8 feet off the ground. My thoughts are it is because that spot where the trees are means something to some one... or means to stay out of that spot cuzz there is a hole there or something. I know of an old hay shed that still stands after more than 80 years, and it is surrounded by trees now. The family haven't use it for the last 50 years but it was what their grandpa had built on the back edge of the north 40. Well, Guess I didn't help much.
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Kansas99
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Not sure about a tree branch but helped harvest a field of wheat that had a 60x120 pole shed shredded in it from a tornado and the combines did quiet well eating pieces of tin and lumber, although a 2188 didn't far well trying to eat a 4 ft 2x12, luckily it wasn't mine. Of course I run a Gleaner it would have spit big pieces out the back and put tooth picks in the grain tank.
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plummerscarin
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As I recall watching YouTube, BTOs in Australia plant around trees and the comments were that the trees were plot markers once upon a time when there were smaller farms.
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steve(ill)
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thats what i was thinking.... Its a corner marker between 4 old plots.
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klinemar
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A place to rest the horses when plowing.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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I agree with JC . Have heard plenty of stories of guys who used horses needed that shade to rest themselves and their animals . That shade must have been a welcome relief on a hot sunny day . My brother works for a couple BTO's . He has told me of a place where there is a big old tree right in the middle of a big wide open spot . Story is family that leases land out requires that tree stay . I guess back in the day that was a spot they ate their lunches and took breaks . Like JC said eventually land will change owners and it will be gone .
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Ted J
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That's exactly what they were for, shade for the horses. We just happened to use it too. Grampa said that you HAD to take care of the horses no matter what. Usually was a spot where there was a small artesian well or a small stream for the horses. We had put a cattle tank in the one in the bottoms cause the stream had dried up. I can remember Gramps saying it was for the HORSES, but we could sit under there too.
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shameless dude
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i had some of those trees on the edges of fields, not in the center of them. i was farming around them only had to move over a couple feet for about 20 foot or so. baby'ed them and was saving them as they were going to be some furniture pieces made from them when i retired. then before the BTO's planted them fields they cut them down and cut them up and shoved them into a pile...breaking them all up. i even told them to leave them alone, but they didn't pay any attention to me at all. sure is funny when after they now plant some fields, how a large tree happens to fall into their crops! you'd think they'd see the chain saw marks! they haven't said anything yet! lol
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Ted J
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No matter where you were working in the field, you were close to the trees always. You didn't have to go all the way across or from corner to corner. Just one of those things the 'older generation' taught you and I've always remembered it that way. Makes perfect sense when it's 98 degrees with a 95% humidity like it is so often around here.
Dale, just a reminder for you,,,,,,remember back when you told us about somebody putting a fence post in the corn field? But then that'd be money out of your pocket too. A big chunk of tree wastes some of their time... |
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Tbone95
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Old farmer wisdom still says "It's easier to plow around the stump".
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DMiller
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That is a fact, and I still will take a break off a tractor under those same trees as my Great Uncle would rest his Draft Animals and himself from the heat. |
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Kansas99
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Certain areas and certain kinds of trees in Australia can't be removed if you wanted to. They are protected.
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Ray54
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I have cussed a tree or 3 in my time for jumping out in the way. But now that I own some they became sacred. My dad had some his granddad planted and somebody suggested he trim them up and farm a little closer. Learned real quick how much they meant to him.
I rent some ground that has way more than you need for shade,but the old timer that owned it,said you never know where you might want to rest in the shade. Now trees are about sacred in this county.
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FREEDGUY
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Are you serious ?? Dad "plowed around" 3 stumps in a newly purchased tract and PROMPTLY had them removed . To the "horse" replies, even the Amish "here" don't use horses anymore LOL!!!
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shameless dude
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these aren't trees out in a field, but my Grandpa planted numerous oak and walnut trees when the home place was built back in 1903. they surrounded the farmstead, said his grand kids could sell them for a good profit when that time came. yep...the grand kids (stockholders) had them all bulldozed out so the place would look better...more open in their minds, didn't want a windbreak, wasn't the "in" thing!
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Tbone95
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As to your first question, um, NO. Seems it was rather obviously a metaphor. Amish don't use horses??? BS, Mennonites perhaps is what you're seeing? |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Ok I will add some usless information that may or may not be true.
I have heard that when clearing some of the land they farmer/ logger would use one big tree in the center of the lot to attach a pulling system to be used to pull the rest of the stumps around the new field. This may not be the case of your trees? I know I still feel bad that I took down some trees in our yard to build a building. I do remember plowing around a couple trees on my dads property. Also remember the cool breeze under them during hot days! Regards, Chris
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IBWD MIke
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I've seen this in Wisconsin, (mostly), usually White Oaks. Even as much as I love White Oak trees I would absolutely HATE farming around them.
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ac fleet
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I never farmed around nuttin!--MOOSE took care of trees!---AND stumps! lol! |
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FREEDGUY
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The only thing I've seen the amish use horses for "here" are mowing/conditioning/baling hay and spreading manure . And they CERTAINLY don't have a stray tree in the middle of their fields LOL!!! Lot's of steel wheels on the amish tractors though
Edited by FREEDGUY - 13 May 2020 at 5:30pm |
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Tbone95
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Very odd group of Amish then...We’ve had Amish here since the late 70’s. Not a tractor in sight for any of them. They will mount an engine on something and pull it with a horse. Seen Amish around here, eastern Ohio, all across Amish PA, never seen one on a tractor. Mennonite yes, all day. Even Mennonite will be hired by the Amish if they really need a tractor. They’ve even asked me once to plow for them because they were behind. Wouldn’t set foot near a tractor.
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