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GBACBFan 
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Posted: 12 Oct 2010 at 6:51pm |
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for sale on Smokstak Classifieds. OK, fess up. Who's selling that beauty?
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 12 Oct 2010 at 8:07pm |
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 12 Oct 2010 at 8:41pm |
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I know, I know, but I think we should let the seller identify himself. I will promise you that you will not find a nicer A for sale anywhere.
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Brad MI
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Posted: 12 Oct 2010 at 9:00pm |
Like John says, I doubt a nicer A could be found. I was certainly impressed the first time I seen it and I KNOW the folks operating the pony brake that weekend were impressed! Certainly not a more meticulous mechanically restored A can be found; look at that magneto! lol 
Edited by Brad MI - 12 Oct 2010 at 9:09pm
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 6:42am |
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Ya, it would be mine. Prolly going to be auctioned if it doesnt sell this time. Everytime I offer this one people want to buy the kerosene tractor instead, still not for sale.
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Brad MI
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Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 8:29pm |
The other end of the belt..... 
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 8:58pm |
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Didn't even break a sweat did he? LOL There were more than a few eyes opened though!
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 10:34pm |
I saw that beauty firsthand in it's lair and it is a beauty. What makes you want to part with it this time Butch? I should talk to my dad. Of my trip to Ohio two falls ago, the visit with you and the tractors is what he still brings up all the time. I think there was a devilish grin on his face when you started it up for us.
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morton(pa)
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Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 11:17pm |
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Anyone know where I can come up with a fast 13000? LOL
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SHAMELESS
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Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 11:41pm |
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brad..what the ......is that thing in your pic?
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Tricky Dickie
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 5:30am |
 Butch(OH) wrote:
Ya, it would be mine. Prolly going to be auctioned if it doesnt sell this time. Everytime I offer this one people want to buy the kerosene tractor instead, still not for sale. |
Hey Butch, if that tractor were a kerosene model, I would buy it from you right away; no problem. It looks beautiful!
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 5:37am |
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Tricky just buy a Kero manifold from Wil and BINGO ,Oh high compression will not work.
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 7:00am |
SHAMELESS wrote:
brad..what the ......is that thing in your pic? |
It's a prony brake. Basically a dynamometer. Butch had that baby cooking.
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 7:19am |
Well Chuck it's like this, we have run out of room but still have ambition to work on things so some things have to go to make room and it sure doesn't hurt the play toy bank account either. Not sure if I have too much ego for my work or what? but the tractor has been for sale now for basicaly 3-4 years for the same money as lessor tractors have sold for. This is the final pirce drop before it goes to one of the big auctions and I'll let the buyers decide what it is worth. My guess is they will wish they bought it directly from me..
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Tricky Dickie
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 8:55am |
Fred in Pa wrote:
Tricky just buy a Kero manifold from Wil and BINGO ,Oh high compression will not work. |
That's the problem Fred - high compression and TVO do not go together, or I would try to buy Butch's tractor. Still, there's bound to be a good TVO model for sale in the UK or abroad sooner or later and I will be there!
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Andy (MN)
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 9:30am |
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Butch, what's your best guess as to HP on this tractor? What size are the pistons (4.75, 5, 5.25)? Does it have a gear driven generator or belt? It's a very nicely done tractor!!
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 10:11am |
Andy (MN) wrote:
Butch, what's your best guess as to HP on this tractor? What size are the pistons (4.75, 5, 5.25)? Does it have a gear driven generator or belt? It's a very nicely done tractor!! |
Please call if you have interest but to answer your questions the bore is 5 5/16" or about 575 CI. We calculated the compression during the build but it has left me, best memory is right around 7.5-1 Generator is belt drive on a factory power unit bracket. The tractor had a live hydraulic pump mounted on the gear drive at one time, since removed. The idler gear is present to install the gear drive gen. We have had it on a dyno twice. The pics shown in this thread at the GOTO in MI. we pegged his gauge without developing a sweat so he put 60 HP on the chaulk board, later a JD couldnt peg the gauge but had 75HP,, ahh the bleed greens you have to love them. We had it on a PTO dyno at a local show and I told the guy dont take it over 60 as I dont want to break the PTO and we put out 60 while still on the idle circuit. Call 614-325-4211 if you have interest.
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Tricky Dickie
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 10:27am |
When you think that the 5 1/4" bore kerosene engine in the EK 30-60 Thresherman's Special makes an easy 60 hp on a much lower compression ratio (maybe 4:1) with 563 cubic inches in factory trim, it's a near certainty that your tractor will be running over 75 hp minimum with the extra few cubes and high compression ratio. Would you include shipping cif to a UK port in the price for the tractor Butch? If so, maybe we might have something to argue seriously about.
Tricky Dickie
Edited by Tricky Dickie - 14 Oct 2010 at 12:20pm
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Darrell G (MN)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 7:16am |
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Butch does that price include all you old worn out rusty parts. lmao
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Ken(MI)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 11:53am |
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Darrell, you know that there is no way Butch will part with that collection of WOS (worn out stock) parts that has taken him a lifetime of buying, selling, bartering, and begging to accumulate!! I felt lucky that he even took the time to show it all to me once.
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Todd MN
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 7:57pm |
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Butch, I hope someday to see it in person.
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Bill Long
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:42pm |
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Bill Long
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:46pm |
Hey Butch! One neat tractor.
Sorry I still have to master the technique of posting pictures and words.
Let me wish you the very best on your sale. This tractor is in such good shape I'm sure you will get your price.
Take good care. It was a pleasure to meet you at NY GOTO.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 16 Oct 2010 at 11:08pm |
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Tractor has been sold, thanks.
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Darrell G (MN)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 12:13pm |
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Ken when Butch showed me his WOS the first question he asked was I current on my shots to avoid infection from the rusty parts. lol
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 12:50pm |
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Hope you found her a good home Butch. I was thinking of trading you all my rusty tractors for the A, that way you and the boys would have plenty of projects but then you wouldn't have the money to finish them. And I would have to make about 10 trips to Ohio to drop them all off!!! Tired talking the old man into buying it as part of my inheritance early but he wouldn't have it!!!
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Darrell, Jr. (MN)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 6:02pm |
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alright Butch, what are you going to put in it's place?
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 6:15pm |
We spent part of it at the auction in Author ILL where we picked up these two old diesels, a 6HP Lister and a 8HP Bamfords. The shop was getting way too clean and needed some more rust and dirt, LOL.
Edited by Butch(OH) - 17 Oct 2010 at 6:18pm
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BrettPhillips
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Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 6:31pm |
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You need a Field Marshall next! Those "little" one lung diesels get heavy quick. One with its own wheels and transmission would be much easier to move around.
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Henry se/k!
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Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 9:05pm |
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I know who now owns the A. Makes three of us anyway!
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