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Posted: 22 Jan 2020 at 3:29pm |
Oh boy here comes another newbee! Hi, my name is Ed. I have a fork lift I need help to identify, the model # tag is gone. Here's what I do know. Eng. tag Mod G-153, Cat 4516981 S/N G-76411. Transmission tag Power shift WC Ident# 10-01-001 S/N 10146M Cat# 4821502 mfg by Borg Warner Corp. I believe the eng is Buda/AC. Here are my questions, Do I check trans fluid with eng running or eng off? What do I use for trans fluid? Mod# of forklift? Approx year of machine? I think the point gap is .022, does anybody know what the dwell is supposed to be? Thx
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Posted: 22 Jan 2020 at 7:03pm |
Ed, Welcome! I wont be able to help identify your fork lift. But you can have as many pictures as you want in the same thread. Just go down a couple lines and enter the next picture. Congrats on the AC forklift. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 22 Jan 2020 at 7:31pm |
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OK, thanks
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Posted: 23 Jan 2020 at 9:17am |
hmm.. propane powered, 5000# lift. you 'should' be able to score a manual from www.liberatedmanuals.com. put 'allis lift' into the 'search box' and it'll limit the list to almost manageable. TONS of neat things there, real easy to get sidetracked. BTW do NOT go 'off concrete' with your new ride.OK, maybe once..then you'll KNOW why !
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Posted: 23 Jan 2020 at 8:21pm |
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OK, thanks for the input
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Posted: 23 Jan 2020 at 9:46pm |
Yes, do check the transmission fluid with the engine running. If the fluid is red in color it will be Dexron ATF in there. That would be the one to use, if it's not red they may just have put hydraulic oil in it (or tractor hydraulic). The model of your forklift might be ACC-50 if it's a 5000 lbs size. The year could be anywhere from the mid-sixties to the late seventies... As for point gap I would set it at 18 to 20 thousands of an inch, (would still run good at 22). Please let us know if you get it running well, thanks.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 8:30am |
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Got it, thanks
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Posted: 21 Mar 2020 at 11:33pm |
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So from what I been told from I believe his name was Jon is that you’ll be able to find the serial number on the main frame in the foot control area on the outer side of the frame. I do have a service Manual for these lifts. Seems one Manual covered almost all modes. I do plan on scanning it and making it a pdf at some point. Let me know if you need anything. I may even be able to find jons email. He use to produce the serial number plates for AC. So he’s an older guy but really awesome.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2020 at 12:36pm |
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OK, thanks, I'll check to see if I can find the serial number. I would be interested in a manual
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Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 5:56am |
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That is an ACC 50 model. I have the same machine but with the Continental engine
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Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 7:42am |
Just wondering if you ever did get a pdf for your manuel made up? Thanks Ed
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Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 7:44am |
Yes shes running pretty good. Any idea where I might purchase a valve cover gasket set for her? Thanks Ed
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Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 8:42am |
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Did you ever get a copy of your manual uploaded to a PDF? If so I would be interested in purchasing a copy. Thanks Ed
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Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 5:54pm |
Rwt98. did you ever get a copy of your manual put on a PDF? Ed
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Posted: 23 Dec 2020 at 8:03pm |
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What is the difference between a F40 and a ACC50? I assume the lifting capacity. I know the ACC50 is 5000 lbs, I assume the F40 is 4000 lbs. They both look the same in appearance.
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Posted: 23 Dec 2020 at 8:31pm |
Snowman, Found you here too. We are working on similar machines. The F40 of mine has me in a head lock! Yours looks very much like the same engine. I am glad your running on propane. Could you take multiple pictures of the propane components? You machine is way cleaner than mine for sure! I have so much grime on mine its terrible! Nice machine you have! I had forgotten I had posted in your thread before I had even thought about owning one of these. I do have a original owners manual for F40 and 50 coming soon. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 24 Dec 2020 at 8:25am |
Chris, I will get some pictures taken in the next couple of days. My machine did not look much better than yours when I first got it, but after many pressure washes, scraping, and brushing with Simple Green, that is what see looks like. Doing some paint work as I go. Yes she has the Buda 153G engine same as yours. Where did you order the owners manuals from? Ed
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Posted: 24 Dec 2020 at 8:33am |
This may help the F40 owners.....
found at www.liberated.manuals. in the 'search' box I used 'allis-Chalmers F40'. There were 2-3 pages of 'hits', this is the first one.
If you can't get it, email and I'l directlt email it to you, 1.5MB PDF..
gas version btw...
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Posted: 24 Dec 2020 at 10:05am |
great... that site has 100-200 F40 'versions' so there's probably a 'correct' one ,I just grabbed the 1st. There's also a proatable kitchen and other 'weird' stuff near the btm of th e2nd page......
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Posted: 24 Dec 2020 at 2:31pm |
Jay, Got it too! Thanks! Lots a gooood stuff in the details of these machines! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 24 Dec 2020 at 3:26pm |
yup, and if you goto liberated manuals you'll find a LOT more..though I wonder what a 'portable kiten' has to do with Allis-Chalmers....
irony is I've neve rfound a mnaula for MY forklift there...... Shameless' machine is making a 'donation' as I type.......
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Posted: 25 Dec 2020 at 12:23am |
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Is there a manual for Shameless's "Pretty" machine? If so I'd like to get it and figure out how to put a remote control on it...
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Posted: 25 Dec 2020 at 9:37am |
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John just put a remote control on his water supply and shut it down permentatly
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Does any one know the difference between a F50 and a ACC50 forklift?
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