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CORY 
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 4:59pm |
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Someone told me that all trucks and trailers need to pull over into a weigh station in Indiana? Is this true? I have to go into Indiana next weekend empty and was wondering what I might be in store for. I should be going through fairly early on a Saturday morning if that makes a difference from Illinois on I-74 towards Indianapolis. Thanks in advance.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 5:04pm |
Depends on size , weight , and type of license on truck, also on trailer if pulling one.
Was looking at another post on Indiana and said they were also pulling over RV lic viehicles pulling race cars and such and ticketing or impounding them for no DOT number as drivers had no CDL and such as they were for profit cargo carriers.
Edited by Coke-in-MN - 26 Sep 2010 at 5:33pm
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 5:11pm |
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Early Saturday morning on 74 weigh station should be closed. I have never seen it open during that time. I drive through there maybe a dozen times a year going to indy. The illinois DOT is much worse than the Indiana DOT. The weight station is a few miles past the Veedersburg exit. DOT officers drive white crownvics, Regular state police drive black crown vics.
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Sorry brainfart, DOT is light blue. Keep changing damn colors of state trooper cars.
I amazingly haven't been pulled over by the DOT in a long time. We live near the Illinois border and all the truckers around here swear that the Illinois pigs are #$$ho#4s in comparison to the indiana boys. Yes they are more aggressive this year in indiana, they were told that they would provide enough revenue to pay their salaries.
Edited by firebrick43 - 26 Sep 2010 at 11:17pm
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 5:36pm |
DOT officers that I've seen are driving light blue Crown Vics.
What type of truck and trailer are you pulling?
This past year, IN DOT has been super aggressive with both semi trucks and pick ups pulling equipment trailers, looking for working tail lights, registrations, proof of insurance, etc.
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 5:54pm |
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Indiana DOT drive light blue Crown Vics. Regular marked cars can be white or black Crown Vics. They also use unmarked Crown Vics, Camaros, Mustangs, Chargers or anything else. The only times I was stopped pulling a trailer was for speeding or lights not working. Never been in a weigh station.
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 6:54pm |
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If you're empty, they won't care your alive. Big rigs generate revenue. If your in a pickup with a trailer that's weightis less than 26,000, you don't have anything to worry about. If your load doesn't look like a Sanford and son load, you'll get a green arrow. ALL SCALES get rolling weights. There's no stopping. Follow the instructions on the signs. 20 mph. 200 foot spacing between the rig ahead of you etc...........No one in the shack knows what your max GVW is. A big rig: 80000, or overweight/heavy hauler permited. A pickup with a trailer? They don't have a clue.
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Curt-Indiana
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 7:47pm |
GO TO THIS SITE FOR INFORMATION ON TRUCKS IN INDIANA
farm trucks as you see have a different set of rules.
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 9:16pm |
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Isn't one of catches in this whole mess now is once you cross the state line you are now involved in interstate(?) commerce. log book medical card and all that crap?
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 9:33pm |
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If your in a pickup with a trailer that's weightis less than 26,000, you don't have anything to worry about. If your load doesn't look like a Sanford and son load, you'll get a green arrow. A pickup with a trailer? They don't have a clue. |
Generally speaking, I would agree with you.
Seems like everywhere I go, the State Police have some working man in a pick up pulling a trailer pulled over on the interstate.
Somewhere I heard that the SP are targeting pick ups with equipment trailers. They are looking for working lights, proof of ownership, proof of insurance, valid drivers license, etc.
They will have guys pulled over empty or loaded. I heard they are trying to crack down on stolen trailers, as well as working lights, insurance, etc.
They have gotten HARD CORE about this over the past year.
I haven't really seen local cops worrying a bit about trailers...just seems like the SP on the interstates.
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 9:33pm |
You might want to pull over. LOL
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010 at 10:54pm |
Ok back into the 1 ton truck (and above that GVW) thing and the 10,000 lb. trailer. It can be a commercial and could require a DOT number but also I may need a annual inspection sticker on both truck and trailer.
Health card is another item they are now enforcing , along with the proper class license. Now there is also a Nation database of all carriers and drivers. Next the log-book item can become a issue.
One gets the feeling you should stay home and not come out from underneath the blankets ... LOL
Edited by Coke-in-MN - 26 Sep 2010 at 10:55pm
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 7:29am |
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We went through Indiana just two weeks ago, they had signage at the weigh stations that said ALL trucks with trailers over 16000# must weigh; that covers almost all pickups and trailer combinations. And yes, the IDOT as well Kansas and MoDOT are getting serious about this too.
Dumb__s at work decided to refill his O2 and acetylene tanks, picked them up full at weld supply and just laid them down in his truck, cop stopped him for taillight/brakelight out and saw tanks; he got ticket for $250 for unrestrained gaseous tank load and his attorney said there is nothing he can fight here, he also had to stand them up and have rope brought to him before he could move the truck.
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 7:32am |
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 7:43am |
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Seems to me like we need to know exactly whst corey is driving and pulling?
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 8:10am |
JohnCinMd wrote:
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Well Said
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 4:19pm |
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when my dad was like 19 in 79 he help his uncle haul nursey for a while went to indiana to drop it off on his way there he had to stop and weigh the truck. he didnt load the truck someone else did and told him it was the right weigh he is going up and had stoped to weigh and they all come out and told him he was like 40000 pound (this is on a 2 ton truck) that should have only been like 25000 he got a big fine
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 5:09pm |
I have a friend that owns a trailer repair shop.
I ran into him today, and when I asked him about the crack down on pick ups with trailers, he replied "It is only about the money."
He says that four new SP officers were trained for enforcing trailer laws:
Correct registration, working lights, working brakes, correct insurance, etc.
They are working the central Indiana area, but rumor has it, they have laid off for the time being.
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 8:56pm |
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maybe the "on The Road Again" guy can chime in here. He seems to be all over hauling just about anything
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Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 9:31pm |
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If they are checking for working lights, brakes, etc maybe they will save someone life, Comeon guys these things are necessary for safe operation.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 7:20am |
So hardly anyone thinks safty frist ??????? Fix your lights repair your brakes ,keep good tires on your trailer ,Keep your truck up also ,and go where ever you want!!!.How do you think it got to this ,Buy good chains and straps take the time to FASTEN your load.ITS not all about the MONEY to to them its about the money the guy dose not want to spend to be safe!!! or maybe dose not even care about YOUR family riding the same road as them.COMMON SENSE also needs to be in this BALL GAME. Thanks for Sharing.For 20 years hauling out the road I have had no problems got checked a few times but everything checked out OK because it starts before you leave to hit the road.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 7:47am |
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Fred's right. If we just keep everything as it should be, we'll be ok. The inspections are increasing because the gubmints need the money, but unless there's a light out or something, we should be ok.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 12:15pm |
I asked the Iowa DOT earlier this year at the State Fair and they stated that Oct 1 Iowa would be going the same direction as MO and a few others in that anything with a GVW over 10K COULD be considered commercial. They add the GVW of the power unit and trailer together and if that is over 10K then they define weather or not you're commercial. Hauling your race car to the track, you're pretty much going to be commercial due to potential winnings. If you're hauling a tractor somewhere to do paid work, or if you're going to farm your own property/rental ground, you're commercial. If you're hauling your tractor to a show where you're not going to win anything and don't have a sponsor or someone else helping with expenses, you're private and exempt from commercial regs.
Now that I've said all of this, I'm going to bet that the private vs commercial definitions won't be interpreted the same by each officer.
I should add that the regs state that all trailers 3K and up must have working brakes on ALL wheels. Doesn't matter if it's like mine and only has one axle with brake mounting brackets. If you don't have brakes on all wheels, you have to do what's necessary to put them on.
Edited by Brian Jasper co. Ia - 28 Sep 2010 at 12:19pm
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Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 10:34pm |
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i have a 32 foot goose neck,cked with the dot here in texas.do not need a dot sticker,comm,licenses or anything else.have farm tags on the trailer and have made several trips to my farms in northeast indiana.never a problem..
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 5:05am |
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What happens when you are legal in your home state and are traveling through other states to pick up a piece of equipment? Do you fall under your states DOT regulations or are you mandated to comply within the states you travel through? I'm curious as the reg's are getting more and more confusing.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 6:19am |
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Ohio just passed new regs that will be enforced starting January 1 2011, for now they are giving warnings. Basically they affect any vehicle or combo over 10,000 GVW. Medical cards, anual inspections etc etc call the PUCO to get up to snuff, I dont have all the details handy. All of my mechanics and forman have to get up to snuff before Jan 1. They are nailing the commercial mowers and landscapers big time, of coarse most of them arent even legal citizens, LOL along with all the 3/4 ton and larger pick ups pulling trailers. The only ones they did not include was RVs ( go figure???) You can still be 85, blind, deaf and half goofy and drive a Petercar towing an Explorer as long as it has RV plates.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 7:53am |
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J.W., when did you check with TX D.O.T.? I'm just curious. When I talked with the IA D.O.T. they said the determining factor would be are you Private or Commercial. With a dedicated farm lic plate, Iowa would almost surely define you as commercial.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 7:54am |
Butch(OH) wrote:
The only ones they did not include was RVs ( go figure???) |
That is why both my Freightliner and 35 foot moving van have RV plates on them.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 8:28am |
John (C-IL) wrote:
Butch(OH) wrote:
The only ones they did not include was RVs ( go figure???) |
That is why both my Freightliner and 35 foot moving van have RV plates on them. |
I was thinking of you John when I typed half blind and goofy, LOL
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 5:45pm |
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If you're that worried about scales buy a map that shows where they are at and drive around them. I'm with John (C-IL) our Pete is licensed as a motor home. I was stopped by the IDOT this summer for speeding, wanted my log book, told him I didn't need one it was licensed as a RV. He asked if we had all the things in the Pete that made it an RV, I said yes, he then wanted to know what was in the trailer, I told him a couple of four wheelers (that was true, an ATV and our MOD FWD pulling truck). He wanted to look in the trailer so I showed him and he said "Have a nice day" and returned to his car. No speeding ticket either.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 8:21pm |
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I drove through Indiana to get a tractor back in 2009, I called Indiana DOT to find out if I needed to stop at the weigh stations, they told me that if I did not they could pull me over for not stopping even though they would likely wave me through if I did stop. I went on Memorial weekend and it tuned out that they were all closed from MO to OH coming and going.
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