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Big Hunter 
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 Topic: 190xt vs D-21
Posted: 19 Sep 2010 at 7:58pm |
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I saw them sitting beside each other at the steam show this weekend and the D21 made the 190 look like a toy. I couldn't believe the size difference. Now i want a D-21....
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Dutchboy Johan
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 4:41am |
A D21 and a 220 are much bigger then a 190. On the Dutch Allis-Chalmers day, I parked my XT next to a 220 and a D21 to see the difference.
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Charlie175
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:26am |
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Ah but that 190 was a gem of tractor when worked right
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Lester
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:44am |
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When the 190XT first came out farmers were outworking the nonturbo D-21s with their XTs. After that AC then put turbos on D-21s and became Series II.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 12:06pm |
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I love my 190 XT, all around good workhorse. I can't believe the power it has. Very maneuverable, user friendly tractor. My D21, though, unfortunately doesn't have a PTO, and I don't have any tillage work for a tractor that size, so I haven't put over a half hour on it in 3 years. Darrel
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Big Hunter
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 4:05pm |
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Hopefully by next summer I'll have my 190xt back together and find out how much of a work horse it is.
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AllisChalmers37
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:42pm |
Do you know what makes them both look like toys?
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Answer: 4W-305!!!!!!
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1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Hurst
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:08pm |
Haha, that 4w305 is my desktop background on my school lap top. Gets some attention when I'm sitting in the front rows in my business classes with a tractor on my computer. All the snobby wanna-be investment bankers just don't understand....
Hurst
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gleaner1
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Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 8:14pm |
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Wow, who's mint 305 is that, could that be the one that drove through West Allis works in 05, sure looks like the one.
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AllisChalmers37
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 8:06pm |
whoever owns it is a lucky person. Just for fun I would take it to shows with a turning plow or a 2 basket tedder behind it and call it my light duty tractor.
Then I would take a B and put a New Holland 855 round baler (5.5x6) behind it. It's my whorkhorse.
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1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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AllisChalmers37
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 8:10pm |
Hurst, I get so mad when people act like complete snobs and look at us like we are retarded for coming from Ky and loving tractors.
My aunt went to NYC and someone asked where she was from and she said "Kentucky." The person responded by saying "Is that the state where you marry your cousins?"
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1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 8:35pm |
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That particular 4W305 belongs to Joe Kurzy, lives south of Wausau, WI. Flagship of a fabulous collection of newer AC tractors & equipment. Mike
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ACD19farmboy
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Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 8:13pm |
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What show?? Was it at Shelbina MO?? cuz there was a friend of mines D21, 190XT, and a D19 Diesel there.
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lukeWI
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 9:54pm |
this is a picture of my dads narrow front 190 and my d-21
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Lonn
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Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 5:26am |
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luke, do you have a close up of that 190? Would like to see what looks like nose art on her.
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Unit3
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Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 9:35pm |
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We need a side by side of the HD41, 4W305, and a N7 Gleaner with a 30' head.
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AllisChalmers37
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Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 11:09pm |
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I love the looks of both the 190XT and the D21. Two of the best.
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