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Hunt4Allis 
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 4:56am |
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Just noticed that my dad's b has what looks like louvers in front of radiator ( between radiator and front grill, but no way to operate them?
What are they used for?
My 53 CA doesn't have these, nor does my d-17???
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Dick L
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 5:45am |
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To manually control engine temperature!
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Larry in NC
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 6:07am |
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On your tractor there should be a hole in the top right side of the grill that originally had a crank handle to open and close the shutters.
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WF owner
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 6:36am |
The earlier tractors did not have a thermostat, so they had manual shutters in front of the radiator, that you could open or close to control engine coolant temperature. There was a crank at the top right side (if you were sitting in the seat) of the radiator shell.
Newer tractors had a thermostat that controlled temperature, so there was no need for shutters.
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mdm1
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 7:02am |
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Hunt4Allis
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 9:14am |
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Yep, my crank is gone
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 4:20pm |
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Replacements are available from some of the suppliers on this forum.
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Dick L
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Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 5:59pm |
 WF owner wrote:
The earlier tractors did not have a thermostat, so they had manual shutters in front of the radiator, that you could open or close to control engine coolant temperature. There was a crank at the top right side (if you were sitting in the seat) of the radiator shell.
Newer tractors had a thermostat that controlled temperature, so there was no need for shutters. |
It was also a way of thinking back even in the late 30's regardless if they had thermostats or not. When Dad started any of out Olivers in 40's he put a feed bag over the front until they warmed up. They all had thermostats. Years later he didn't.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 9:05am |
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My 51 CA has a thermostat and shutters. It also has a distributor on a mag flange mount that was put on by the dealer before Dad bought it.
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HoughMade
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Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 9:09am |
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My '51 B has no shutters- doesn't look like it ever did.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 8:44pm |
Hunt4Allis wrote:
Yep, my crank is gone |
Hunt, I have a handle from a WD tractor that you can have if you want? PM me if interested? I have to find it in the vast waerhouse!  Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Lon(MN)
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 7:34am |
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Crank is longer on B,C and CA
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Hunt4Allis
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 7:44am |
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PM sent sugarmaker
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 8:00am |
Tony Carbaugh sells brand new cranks if interested. Give Tony a call.... Steve@B&B
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2019 at 11:43am |
The shop manual might discuss the shutters and thermostat alternatives: http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Gerald J.
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