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    Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 3:19pm
Just drove two hrs to see a WD 45 for sale. 
Fair shape imo, near new rubber, had an engine vibration at low rpm but biggest issue was I couldn`t hardly steer it with 2 hands!
Its a wide front,  no power steering, no play in steering but it is near impossible to steer either direction.
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Well— the front end may just need some grease depending on how long it sat, could be more involved if it wouldn’t budge, others may share different ideas. I would be more concerned with the engine vibration at low rpms and take a close look at the front crank shaft pulley while running.
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Originally posted by allisbred allisbred wrote:

Well— the front end may just need some grease depending on how long it sat, could be more involved if it wouldn’t budge, others may share different ideas. I would be more concerned with the engine vibration at low rpms and take a close look at the front crank shaft pulley while running.


Yes, vibration has me leary. Then when I drove it, the steering was near impossible to turn and I forgot the vibration!
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What can cause the front crank pulley to wobble?
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The vibration can be a number of things— difference in rotating part balance most likely in my mind, I looked at one that the crank shaft was shifting back and forth that I didn’t buy. A friend of mine bought it and brgs were ate out of it soon after he got it. A lot of these engines have been apart several times over 60 years. You never know what was rebuilt correctly.
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We had one of the last WDs, dad bought it new. To me it steered hard.
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Wasn't anything obvious in that front end linkage. Tires weren't wore funny. Wasn't just a tough spot,it was tough the whole way through the steering travel. My guess is a bind in the steering box.
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Dads45,
I just took my wide front WD for a spin today and it doesn't have power steering but it sure steers better than my narrow front WD45. Could be lubrication and or bearings/ bushings. 
Also that vibration could be as simple as timing? Mark the distributor. Loosen the distributor , turn it both ways to see if you get reduced vibration or smoother engine?
Good luck!
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I would agree on lack of lube in steering.       MACK
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My wd45 front end was full of grease gun grease. It had migrated to the outside of the gearbox and was not lubing the steering gears. It steered super hard. I actually filled the gear box with sae90 oil. It was a whole lot better. But it all ran out the bottom of column. I rebuilt the whole thing. The bearings/seals came from Ago. Now it holds oil and steers good.
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I had the same issue as Tom full of grease gun grease but not in the upper bearing.  Also there are shims for the main bearings, after cleaning and inspecting I determined bearings were set to tight so I fabricated another shim and reassembled, now it steers much better.
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Make sure the steering knuckle beside the engine doesn't have a pin falling out of it.
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bought one once that had front wheels spread out as far as they would go
it steered the easiest of all I have had without powersteering
always wondered if that was the reason
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Well, I didn`t buy it and it`s 80 miles away so thinkin I`m gonna pass on this one. I do appreciate all the input though gentlemen. You helped in my decision to walk away. Now if it had been a $1000 tractor, different story/risk but it was over twice that. G-day!
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