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Dave(inMA) 
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 Topic: Lacing Roto Baler Belts
Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 6:13pm |
I'm getting ready to replace the belts on my standard Roto Baler. The "new" beltsare laced. I say "new" because they were shipped to me in 2008! They did not come with pins - is there a good source for how to do the lacing and what sort of pins are needed? [I know, I can call Excel, but you guys are the source of all knowledge!]
Thanks very much. Dave
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DiyDave
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Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 7:14pm |
Rollers on AC rotobaler are skinny, don't use anything but clipper lacing, with rawhide pins. I just picked up a clipper lacer at an an auction, in a box lot of clipper laces, won't tell ya what I paid fer it!
Anyway, shoup sells the pins, I think. I'd search youtube vids for flat belt lace installation... 
Had a minute, so I found this, at shoup's site:
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I forgot, they don't sell the rawhide, anymore, its a plastic coated steel cable, look at what shoup sells, likely you can source it at a local hardware store, once you know what thickness, you need...
Edited by DiyDave - 08 Jul 2019 at 7:29pm
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Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 9:24pm |
Used to be called catgut. Not sure what that is, but the doc used it to sew my back up about 60 year ago when I fell on a sickle mower and exposed my kidneys. 
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Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 9:31pm |
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Around here there are fellows that stock belting for big round balers. If you break 1 they will make you a new 1 while you wait. If you have someone like that near you, take your new belt and most times those guys will fix you right up with the proper stuff.
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Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 10:22pm |
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Thanks, all of you. These belts have the lacing installed - I think from the Shoup video (thanks Dave) that the lacings are the Clipper style. All I need are the pins that connect the lacings on the ends of the belts once they're installed in the baler - those didn't come with the belts. I did a search looking for information on the pins and so far have come up empty. I like the idea of finding pin material at the local hardware - just need to determine material and thickness. Probably makes sense to give Excel a call tomorrow.
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Posted: 10 Jul 2019 at 2:39pm |
So I called Ex-Cel (now owned by someone else) to get educated on stitching together the belts. Here's what I learned...this length of "electric wire" was included with each belt - it's actually .09x cable with a nylon coating.
So put the belt in place, line up the lacings, insert the cable, bend the ends over and insert into the lacing.
In addition to replacing the lower belts, I'm going to switch out the pickup and the deck (aka "roof") using ones I acquired some years back. Some of the sheet metal in the existing pickup is rotted out, and the deck came from the PO with a sizeable dent!
Spent my morning reading the Operating Instructions manual and locating the 40 or so grease fittings on this machine...getting grease into some of them was a challenge! Per the manual, some of them were to be greased twice daily!
The recent discussion on here about bush hogging with an overrunning clutch got me thinking about whether I ought to use one with the baler. I'll be using my CA (which has a working hand clutch) with the baler. Unlike the bush hog, the baler doesn't have any parts that are likely to generate lots of momentum that could push the tractor.
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Posted: 10 Jul 2019 at 5:59pm |
IIRR, the baler already has a rattle clutch, with an integral pin ORC, behind it. Check your drive line, there should be a spring, pressing on the front half of the rattle clutch, the rattle clutch, then the front half of the U joint, followed by a cast 2 pin housing, then a sprocket that the pins ride in. All of this is enclosed, and you can't see the pins or sprocket. In my experience, there is a stover nut, and the ears for the U joint to the front of the housing, in question. Test by rotating the pto shaft first one way, then the other. If it goes easier, backwards, and you hear the clicking of the pins, then you have a built in ORC...
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Posted: 10 Jul 2019 at 9:22pm |
Thanks, Dave. Much appreciated. I'll try it and see if this works.
Dave
Edited by Dave(inMA) - 10 Jul 2019 at 9:23pm
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