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allis3 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: usa Points: 46 |
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How big has anyone built a 301 gas for pulling
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21335 |
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442. Next question.
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allis3 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: usa Points: 46 |
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That’s descent but we’re gonna be competing 8-10 mph with RDs and big cube Oliver’s and Deere’s. Hoping to get up close to 600
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21335 |
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Not gonna happen with a 2000 series AC.
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allis3 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: usa Points: 46 |
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Not enough room to swing ,
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21335 |
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442 is 4 1/2" bore X 4 5/8" stroke and I had to grind notches in the camshaft to clear the rods when they swing by. Same bore with a 6 inch stroke is 572 cubes and I see no way to accomplish that much swing even with custom made conn rods, but maybe if there's enough $$$$$$ applied to the job ??
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allis3 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: usa Points: 46 |
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I haven’t been in the 301s , built quite a few 226s. Biggest being a little over 400 cubes . I guess I’ll take one apart and see what happens thanks for your response
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d17brown ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: farley iowa Points: 1704 |
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had a 226 to 435cubes
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allis3 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: usa Points: 46 |
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Yes I’ve built some around that big , but not the 6 cylinder, I’ll just have to get inside and see
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AaronSEIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2564 |
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How do you get a 226 to 435? AaronSEIA
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d17brown ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: farley iowa Points: 1704 |
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4.706 bore, 6.25 stroke. Ran in a D17,
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AaronSEIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2564 |
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How thin was the webbing between the cylinders? I don't recall there being that much extra room. It is impressive what you guys can do to make cubes.
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allis3 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: usa Points: 46 |
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My sleeves were touching,I believe they were .120 thick
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Larry W. ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2010 Location: Luck, WI Points: 280 |
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530 ci
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bsallis180 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2013 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 209 |
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Wow Larry that’s impressive what was your bore and stroke? That is amazing
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d17brown ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: farley iowa Points: 1704 |
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i have a 301 gas motor for sale complete
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21335 |
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4.500" on the bore and 5.550" on the stroke gets you 530 cubes.
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bsallis180 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2013 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 209 |
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So doc how big can you go on a NA gas till the flow of the head won’t flow enough to fill the bore?
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21335 |
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Don't have any idea. I don't have access to a flow-bench. The carburetor (to a degree) controls how many gallons of air per minute the engine can breathe. I have found using the same stock carb, cylinder head and camshaft and going from 310 to 360 to 390 cubes over the years, in open RPM classes, the more cubes, the less RPM the engine can run, but the torque down low keeps increasing. Turbocharged diesel engine HP also is limited by the size and efficiency of the turbo compressor inlet size. More air in means more potential HP. More cubes, with the same turbo air inlet size, keeps bringing down the top RPM's and adding to the low end torque.
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bsallis180 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2013 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 209 |
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Regardless the toque will still rise as long as the holes fill up. What for carburetor anything larger then 1-7/8?
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