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Allis 8070 vs White 185 |
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Ron(AB)
Orange Level Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Location: Alberta Points: 957 |
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Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 8:43pm |
How does an Allis 2WD out pull a White FWA?
Look at the total drawbar pull (max) Does anyone have/had a White tractor to comment? Allis 8070 Test Date: September 1 - 16, 1982 Type: Diesel 12-speed 2WD PTO power (rated engine speed): 170.72 hp [127.3 kW] PTO fuel use (engine speed): 10.7 gal/hour [40.5 l/hour] PTO power (rated PTO speed): 171.44 hp [127.8 kW] PTO fuel use (PTO speed): 10.4 gal/hour [39.4 l/hour] Drawbar power (max): 145.36 hp [108.4 kW] Drawbar pull (max): 18,777 lbs [8517 kg] Max pull gear: 2S White 185 Test Date: April 5 - 18, 1988 Type: Diesel 18-speed 4WD PTO power (rated engine speed): 187.55 hp [139.9 kW] PTO fuel use (engine speed): 10.9 gal/hour [41.3 l/hour] PTO power (rated PTO speed): 192.38 hp [143.5 kW] PTO fuel use (PTO speed): 11.1 gal/hour [42.0 l/hour] Drawbar power (max): 163.56 hp [122.0 kW] Drawbar fuel use (max): 10.8 gal/hour [40.9 l/hour] Drawbar pull (max): 18,318 lbs [8309 kg] Max pull gear: 2-over |
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blue924.9
Orange Level Joined: 22 Mar 2013 Location: George Iowa Points: 1086 |
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Likely slightly lower hearing in the allis.
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hi my names dan, I am a young guy. i have a problem, i prefer my tractors orange and my clutches mechanical, thanks for letting me share
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Lonn
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The speed at which max drawbar pull was measured makes a big difference.
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Tbone95
Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11544 |
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Being tested on pavement takes a lot of the FWA advantage away. And what were the ballasted weights when tested? Most tractors test very close to tractor weight = drawbar pull, depending on speed/gearing like Lonn said.
In other words, if the Allis was heavier in Lbs./ HP ratio, and pulling slower speed, the numbers make sense. Edited by Tbone95 - 02 Nov 2018 at 7:22am |
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DrAllis
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The 8070 weighed 22,370 lbs total with the rear wheels weighing 17,830 lbs. The White only weighed 18,770 with 10,935 on the rear tires. Cement surface doesn't mean an FWA will do better, especially when it weighs LESS. The truth is the White had almost 20 MORE drawbar HP at a higher ground speed. You've gotta know what you're looking at when it comes to these tests.
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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same way the WC out pulled the UC in nebreska tests
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