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Head gasket for tl14?

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    Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 2:24pm
Hi

I have an old Allis Chalmers tl14, it has been running well, but I need a new head gasket for it. The old one had let in coolant water onto the pistons.

I have searched for a new one on the net, but I just can't find one that seems to fit. I've attached a photo of the engine. The engine number is,
av 322 2em 24 a4852 1486
I don't know if it's a buda or an Allis engine, but if I search for tl14 head gaskets, I can't match them to the old one I have. The part number on the old head gasket is a70788.



I hope you are able to help me finding somewhere I am able to get it

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Tl14 was originally a 6 cylinder engine machine, and the lanova engine used flat pistons and an injector in the side of the head.  looks like your 4 cylinder is direct injection,  you have some kind of transplant.  google search of gasket # had some links to perkins.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DiyDave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 6:14pm
From Swinford's book, if its the original 4 banger, its a 6000 engine, of 344ci, no turbo.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 7:04pm
Same as HD6 and my HD7G
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CAL(KS) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 8:07am
LOL    i was thinking 6000/344 but was checking past posts about tl14 and it was posted as using the 262.  should of went with my gut.  i have norms book at home but not on me.  sorry about the confusion

Edited by CAL(KS) - 08 Aug 2018 at 8:09am
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dmmm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 10:14am
Yes it seems you're correct. I've traced the engine to be a british AEC diesel. The trouble of getting a head gasket for it just became a bit tougher i suspect Ouch
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CAL(KS) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 11:47am
good luck.  i double checked, a 6000/344 has 24 head studs listed in the parts book,  your picture has 20 including the one top left that is removed.
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"Yes it seems you're correct. I've traced the engine to be a british AEC diesel. The trouble of getting a head gasket for it just became a bit tougher i suspect "

If you know which engine a UK contact might help.   There is a bloke AJ who posts regularly on YT in the "Crawlers etc"  forum that comes to mind.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ian Beale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 5:24am
By this  it isn't an AEC as it looks like they didn't make 4 cylinder ones


But they became part of Leyland, who did make 4 cylinder ones


So maybe try the 4/98 or earlier series.  I think it was used in Nuffield tractors.  Oldtanker at Red Power was looking for a replacement one of those engines , so some made it to US.

Picture of a marine one scroll down here


Looks like some parts supply in US if it is one - use the googler
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They made a TL 14 and a TL12 at Essendine they both had an AEC 301 motor by memory in my TL 12 I replaced the liners and head gasket back in the early eighties from NZ agents Cable Price, at the time they were readily available parts, British Allis loaders prior to 545 and up had AEC diesels they were direct injection good starting engines
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reindeer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 10:32pm
Not sure if these folks can help, but were able to get gaskets for a AC 5015 tractor and ship it to me.  Does not mean they can get what you need, but worth a shot.
J&M Gasket & Seals Ltd
Mark Smith
48 High Street
Heckmondwike
West Yorkshire
WF16 0AQ
United Kingdom

Phone:01924|406088
Fax:01924 410103
Email:mark@motorseal.co.uk
                 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ray54 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 12:43pm
Place in Washington state Olson Gaskets makes head gaskets to order for anthing. Just google the Olson Gaskets.

I don't know anyone that has used them so may cost more than the machine is worth. 





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