Hd 4

I removed the transmission from a hd4 dozen and I am trying to install the transmission back on to the torque housing but can only slide it on so far and stops. I get 7/8" from sliding all the way back together and it stops . Wondered if anyone had any advice or reason why it won't go together.

the tube is on the shuttle clutch and will not clear the housing without damaging the tube.

Thanks for information. I did try everything to make sure it was lined up and didn't work but the tube I did not take off. I had left it on and was trying to install while keeping the two inner lines from hitting torque housing. I will take that off today and see if it will slide in. At least now when tube goes back on I can try to make sure that the two inner lines seal up better. Doesn't seem like anything is really sealing the end of the two lines where they insert into the tube plate. I had been putting silicone around them and letting lines bend a bit as we tried to slip the two together. Thanks for help

You did take the side plate off the right side of torque housing where the lines from the shuttle shifter go in correct ?

that is what I thought. the damage gets done when you pull the tranny apart and that bends things. do you have a repair manual ? hard to get fixes done without one. you can go online and may be able to find a free PDF to download or search e-bay to find a cheap one. parts manual is good, but repair one is best for understanding better.

Yes I do have a manual. When I first started project, axle seals, bearings, new steering clutches, etc, I somehow overlooked the removal of those to lines and am finding out that such a little thing caused a lot of problems. I couldn't even find the fitting that I had broke, because it goes from 1/8 pipe thread to 3/8" flare so after braking the retractor off in casting trying to remove broke fitting I had to tap a 1/4" pipe thread in casting for the fitting that I could get. All because I didn't pull that plate off. I probably should have used this site when I started almost two months ago.. I appreciate the help

Gully. This site is a great source of advise and help. I am so glad I joined this forum.

I did fail to ask if anybody new what the three clutch hud sealing rings actual do. The ring would not clip back together and basically two out of three did brake in half when I tried to install could not find anywhere to buy them so put back in with what I had hope it doesn't cause a problem. Appreciate any input if anyone else had this problem.

No joke looks like I'm going to be pulling it back out. Not really what I wanted to do. Thanks for telling now though it would have been even worse after everything was back together. I suppose the same goes for the bigger one on the inside of the clutch. It went back in but in two halves

I should have known that's why I put it back in even though they went back , in two pieces. Obviously my knowledge on these components is poor, I didn't intend on going this far and struggled on finding parts when needed. I started project mainly because the axle seals leaked, so replaced the 4 seals, had a machine shop machine the axles smooth and to size. The brake bands and steering clutches needed to be replaced so did that . The last time I was using the machine I shut it off and started it the next day but when I put it in gear it would not do anything. Had to push onto trailer. So I had a auto mechanic inspect clutch (which he thought all looked good) , trans and final drive. Decided didn't want to go any further to inspect torque converter so now trying to put back together. I didn't know about torque converter hydraulic pump till it was all tore down I am hoping to get back together, once it's running I was going to pressure test pump and was hoping that is why it won't go into gear. Does any of that make sense, and are the rings available at Illini construction supply in champaign il. Thanks for help, I am really feeling like a idiot about now.

Thanks I will

if you will go your profile and pm me your e-mail address I can send you an attachment of parts manual. randal

well go into my profile randaleky and try to send me the address.

Where did you get the sleeves didn't know they existed. They didn't weld them but used a epoxy that has steel in it and then turned it on lathe. He said it was real good stuff but was a little worried about it myself. When I got them back they did look good, hope it wasn't a waste of 500 bucks. Called a business that advertised the axles but they said they had been out of stock for 6 months

Most industrial supply (bearing house) places can get them - cost was real reasonable and like buying 2 seals in total . I think i picked them up from the shop that machined my cases when the outboard axle bearing race ate into case. Both outer cases had to be machined to put in new material to hold that outer cup for the Timken bearing .