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desertjoe
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13580 |
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Hey all you lovers of kitchens,,,,and,,,and,,all you cooks too,,,!!! Since I'm head Chef,,,,,I tend to the kitchen stuff and have always had issues with sharpenin knives,,kitchen as well as huntin knives. I just can't do it for chit,,!!. I been lookin on Ebay for one of them "pull across" type sharpeners as I don't really want one of them electric jobbies. My problem is I can never hold the angle right and wind up getting a good edge,,,,then takin it right off on the next swoop. I used to know this guy at work that could put a sharp on a knife like you would not believe,,!! I never could tho,,,, What do others use,,?? |
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Tracy Martin TN
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10633 |
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The drag thru will ruin a good knife. I have one that has 4 ceramics sticks. You put two of the same grit into holes on a wooden handle. The first set thins the edge, the second set puts on the finish touch. So simple and easy. Crock stick from Cutlery World. HTH Tracy
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CaseyCreek
Silver Level Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: L.A. Points: 332 |
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I use something similar for the same reasons. The Spyderco Sharpmaker. Not cheap, but I use knives a lot on the farm and as such I use the sharpener quite a bit. I also have several stones for when I ding up a blade/axe. Some kitchen knives are only sharpened on one side (Japanese vegetable knife or Nakiri) These get the stone. Other knives (Wusthof and Shun among others) are sharpened at fifteen degrees instead of twenty. If you sharpen at the wrong angle, you will be disappointed unless you are willing to work until the edge is converted. I can't see up close for squat anymore so I bought a USB camera which magnifies the image up to 200X and puts the picture on my computer. This lets me see if I have been sharpening at a bad angle or if I still have some curl on the edge. The pull-through sharpeners are usually really rough on a blade and you will get gouges in the cutting edge. No matter what you use, you can see how you are doing much better if you line the edge you want to sharpen with a magic marker before you begin. If the magic marker wears off where the cutting edge is, you know you are in the right ballpark. (Spyderco Sharpmaker demonstration) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2DDpB8Pjho Edited by CaseyCreek - 21 Feb 2018 at 10:46am |
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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I've seen quite a few sharpeners at wally world back in the fishing section, never bought any yet to give a recommendation.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22487 |
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The one you get from Cutco is OK...though only good for 'regular' edges NOT scalloped ones. I sharpen my 50 yr old Rapala fishing knife , still good today..
I do wet the wheel and the blades ...10-20 strokes per side, I'm done. |
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8634 |
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I am of the nature that "a knife is usually much duller when I get done sharpening it, than it was before I started." That's why for a pocket knife, I use the ones that take a utility knife blade. When the blade gets dull, I change it. I don't hunt or fish, so I don't need a knife for that. Darrel
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18821 |
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Here's the one I use Joe. But back when I bought it, it was only around $125. I've replaced about 4 of the stones through the years. It take a knack though, you gotta learn. And remember, you're NEVER too old to learn.
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Stan IL&TN
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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I'm like Darrel and use a box cutter in the shop. I keep a fold up mini cutter at work and one in the kitchen at home. When they get dull just change the blade.
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33828 |
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I use my knife for many things, and gets dull fast... Punching holes in tin, scraping rust off things, scraping rust out of threads, sometimes using as a mini pry bar, or tryingto turn some screw etc. besides cutting bale strings.
So I just use the angle grinder when I walk past... not pretty but it works...and sharp enough to just press light on the bale strings and they blow apart without any need to saw on them. |
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6293 |
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I use a drag thru with ceramic rods for the general use kitchen knives. For my good knives I use diamond stones in several grits, usually finish off with a 600. I like Tracy's use of the ceramic sticks, may have to try some of those.
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SteveMaskey(MO)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wellsville, MO Points: 597 |
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I never could sharpen a knife good so I give them to BIL to sharpen. When he is done they are sharp
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Ron Eggen
Orange Level Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Lohman, Missour Points: 542 |
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Go to your local Amish/Mennonite store, or lots of local flea markets and you will find Rada knife products made in the USA. They offer a great little knife sharpener with two high carbon hardened stainless steel sharpening wheels, and only cost between 5 & 10 dollars each. I have several and use them all the time. 100 % lifetime money back guarantee.
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Dave H (NE)
Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Western NE Points: 288 |
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Wife got me a WORK SHARP Knife & Tool sharpener. cost about 90 bucks works great and is fast. www.worksharptools.com
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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I too like Darrel and Stan, use a razor blade cutter everywhere.
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33828 |
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anyone use the snap off blades? when the point or blade gets dull, just break it off and got new cutting edge.
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HD6GTOM
Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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I was lucky several years ago one of my regular customers at the tire shop bought up a pickup load of knives from a slaughter house. They considered them worn out. They are sharp, we have never needed to sharpen them. Probably had them close to 15 years. Old gal uses them daily. Only mistake I made was not buying more of them for the rest of the family.
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Dave H
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3499 |
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i use what Dave H (NE) does. Gets me by
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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JC....no....cuz when yer cutting something thick, and you put pressure on them, they snap off, sometimes your knuckles hit where the snapped off blade is.
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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Take one of those large size paint stirring sticks. I think they are for 5 gal buckets. Glue a piece of leather to it. Why do you think old fashioned barbers used a strop? I was told that if you got a good knife it should never touch metal.
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4546 |
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Knife is easy, a lot faster with a diamond stone than the natural ones.
Now drill bits are what I got trouble getting right free hand. I wore out a drill doctor outfit. Got a new one that dose bigger bits when Sears was closing out locally. Been waiting for a rainy day,guess I will just have to get at it.
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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I also have the same problem as Ray.
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desertjoe
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13580 |
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When I quit workin at the local Chevy Dealer, One of the mechanics gave me an unused Drill Dr,,he never could learn to use it so he gave it to me,,,I worked and worked on it but I could not get some good sharps on any drill bits,,then my wife gave me one of those for Christmas,,so to keep the peace, I just put it up in the garage,,NIB,,,, Then I joined a machinist forum and I learned how to freehand sharpening drill bits from a tutorial he wrote up,,,and,,,,and,, I'll bet a case of Black Label,,,I can put a sharp on a drill bit better than any store bought Drill Dr,,and that is the troot,,,!! It was really quite easy and did not take that long to learn his method. If anybody is interested, I will contact him and copy & Paste his write-up so ya'll can read it and try it |
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8634 |
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Now sharpening drill bits, I am pretty handy at that. Don't know if I am as good at it as Joe is, but I can make em chew through metal pretty good. Learned it mostly own; partly from a friend of mine. This friend of mine couldn't sharpen one to save his ass, but could explain to me how it was supposed to be done. I took the information and ran with it. I can pretty much take any cheap drill bit and make it dig. darrel
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desertjoe
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13580 |
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""I can pretty much take any cheap drill bit and make it dig. darrel "" Ten four,,Darrel,,,that right there is the secret to getin em sharp,,I always try em on my palm by gently turnin em and see if they "dig" into skin with just light pressure. You can also tell when one of the flutes is digging more than the other,,, I do cheat some as I have a drill angle gauge that I use to check the true angle for the bigger thicker jobs,,, |
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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I have a bucket of dull bits....
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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now when I buy new bits I buy cobalt ones
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desertjoe
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13580 |
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UMMmmm,,,don't you dare throw them away,,,!! You wanna trade bucket of wore out drill bits for bucket of ,,,,,,,,beer,,??? |
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8634 |
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I have tried every type of bit out there, but my "self sharpened" ones will cut the best. The cobalt ones break if you look at em cross eyed. Like Joe says, don't throw away your bucket of dull bits. Darrel |
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Armand(AZ)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Points: 858 |
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One of the guys in our woodshop in ShowLow brought in his WorkSharp like Dave has and we went into the custom knife shaping business for the ladies in the park. I was impressed with it.
I bought a NIB Drill Doctor at a garage sale, I must be dense, but I can not make that thing sharpen a bit!!!
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LeonR2013
Orange Level Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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Norton builds an excellent stone in various grits. So you can get a rough edge and then to the finer grit and it'll be sharp. If you prefer a diamond stone, I can't think of the name right now, but there's a company in either North or South Dakota that make diamond stones that are absolutely the best. Get their finest grit stone in pocket size and just slide your knife across it real light. Try to keep the same angle both ways and go slow. This will help you develop repeatable angles. If you get a wire edge on you knife it's not bad, just tip your knife up a hair and do one side at a time. It will come right off, again light pressure. It will be scary sharp. If you happen to have a extra hard knife don't be afraid to use a course stone on it to get your edge. Then finish with a fine stone. Hope this helps. Gotta get to the doctor. Leon
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