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715 backhoe forward/reverse

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    Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 10:54pm
Have a 715 backhoe. Forward works pretty good when transmission warm but in cold weather does not want to lock up and only moves in reverse. I can get it to go forward but it is slipping. 4th gear has always slipped. 3rd won’t pull a hill.

I am assuming an overhaul will be in order.

What is the model so I can check with local guys to setup overhaul?
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Our 715 lost all gears but 2nd. Took it out and couldn't find the gears to rebuìld. Found a used one on craiglist for 500. Not a bad swap to do.
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Don't remember the make an model # on it. Should be a tag on the tranny.
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Someone on here listed a kit for the clutch pack back when i was having problems - believe they were out of Michigan 
 The fwd/rev clutch pack is bad - needs rebuilding R&R is suppose to be about 10 hours according to book . 
 It's a common problem and one of items that needed repair . Fwd goes bad and reverse will still work some - and yes 4th and 3rd lose power to drive and the more its used the more the clutches wear and fail 


 Ah yes - I needed my machine so had a Ford Dealer (Carleson Tractor of Rosemount MN) who said they could do it repair mine while i rented a machine from them to finish jobs i had - I had a spare parts kit from when i bought the machine so gave them my manuals and parts - (they are now out of business)
 Took them over a week to repair - charged me 40 hours labor + rental for transmission jack - said kit was short 3 "O" rings which they charged $80 for .
 Got in quite a hassle with their shop foreman - he questioned if my check was any good - I questioned his legal birth - but as they had my machine and i needed it I paid .
 Unit went bad again within 25 hours of use ( $4000 down the drain to crooks )
   Same outfit went after my oldest son for some bill they said he had - took him to conciliation court in 3 different courts - different counties - then here in Wash Co - judge here dismissed all charges with prejudice - told them he would recommend to my son to file harassment charges in District Court against the dealership and owners .  
   



Edited by Coke-in-MN - 02 Feb 2018 at 9:58am
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Originally posted by Coke-in-MN Coke-in-MN wrote:

Someone on here listed a kit for the clutch pack back when i was having problems - believe they were out of Michigan 
 The fwd/rev clutch pack is bad - needs rebuilding R&R is suppose to be about 10 hours according to book . 
 It's a common problem and one of items that needed repair . Fwd goes bad and reverse will still work some - and yes 4th and 3rd lose power to drive and the more its used the more the clutches wear and fail 


 Ah yes - I needed my machine so had a Ford Dealer (Carleson Tractor of Rosemount MN) who said they could do it repair mine while i rented a machine from them to finish jobs i had - I had a spare parts kit from when i bought the machine so gave them my manuals and parts - (they are now out of business)
 Took them over a week to repair - charged me 40 hours labor + rental for transmission jack - said kit was short 3 "O" rings which they charged $80 for .
 Got in quite a hassle with their shop foreman - he questioned if my check was any good - I questioned his legal birth - but as they had my machine and i needed it I paid .
 Unit went bad again within 25 hours of use ( $4000 down the drain to crooks )
   Same outfit went after my oldest son for some bill they said he had - took him to conciliation court in 3 different courts - different counties - then here in Wash Co - judge here dismissed all charges with prejudice - told them he would recommend to my son to file harassment charges in District Court against the dealership and owners .  
   


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The transmission is a Borg Warner 4 speed box - the fwd / rev unit is a hydraulic clutch pack with a torque converter in front - there are pressure rating measurements to help identify problems also in repair manual 

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We have 816 backhoe did ours twice since 78 if you have the book it is really easy
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I have a new shop manual for 715B s/n 2045 and up. $35.00 shipping included.
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