This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Landhandlers

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
DSeries4 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Points: 7304
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DSeries4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Landhandlers
    Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 10:07pm
Which tractors had Landhandler decals applied at the factory?  Does anyone know which years they were used?

I know they started with the 220.  Wondering if all other models came with that designation as well.

Thanks in advance!
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
CrestonM View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Sep 2014
Location: Oklahoma
Points: 8387
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CrestonM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 10:13pm
One-Nineties has the Landhandler decal as well. 
Back to Top
Mikez View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 16 Jan 2013
Location: Usa
Points: 8304
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 10:41pm
185 and 175 to. Don't hold me to it but I thought it was the earlier years, then they tryed to came up with cheaper tractors and lost the land handler label. I forget how they worded it though.
Back to Top
DSeries4 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Points: 7304
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DSeries4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by Mikez Mikez wrote:

185 and 175 to. Don't hold me to it but I thought it was the earlier years, then they tryed to came up with cheaper tractors and lost the land handler label. I forget how they worded it though.


Those were CropHustlers.  I don't think I've ever seen one of these as a Landhandler.
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
Back to Top
Mikez View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 16 Jan 2013
Location: Usa
Points: 8304
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 11:02pm
Oh yes duh I'm sorry got messed up. Ill take the foot out of my mouth

Edited by Mikez - 03 Mar 2017 at 11:03pm
Back to Top
Tenn allis View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 24 Nov 2016
Location: Tennessee
Points: 126
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tenn allis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 3:55am
Was there any difference between the crop hustlers and the land handlers we once had a 185 crop hustler was very pleased with it
Back to Top
Calvin Schmidt View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario Can.
Points: 4520
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Calvin Schmidt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 5:53am
My original paint 1969 220 (52nd built) does not have the Landhandler  decal
Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed
Back to Top
DarrylinWA View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Amarillo Texas
Points: 1898
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DarrylinWA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 7:24am
My 69 220 that was original also (32nd built) had Landhandler on it. Black dash also. Was original paint. Dennis Polk has a picture on it trying to sell it on tractorhouse right now. Interesting subject and another unknown sounds like.
B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
Back to Top
ryan(IN) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Bluffton,IN
Points: 764
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ryan(IN) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 8:20am
Our 71 190 XTIII has a landhandler decal and I'm fairly certain it's original paint.
ryan
1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62
Back to Top
tbran View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Paris Tn
Points: 3285
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tbran Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 8:58am
just to clarify, as to 'origional'  many  dealers ordered and applied decals that AC did or did not apply.  At dealer meetings there were some grumblings as AC being 'chincy' in leaving off racing stripes and crop hustlers and landhandlers.   AC sold a bunch to dealers who were innovative in dressing up the stripped down units.
A set of  detail decals  made the units with only the AC and model decals installed look much more sellable to the sales force.    Thus some tractors of the  same year model to the customer may appear different.
When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
Back to Top
WD45Diesel57 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 20 Jul 2010
Location: Varna, Ont. Can
Points: 646
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WD45Diesel57 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 10:18am
The 180's are landhandlers aswell
1-B's, 2-C, 2-CA's,2-WF, 1-WC,1-G, 3-WD's, 2-WD45, 1-RC, 1-D17 Diesel, 1-D14, 2-D15,1-D17 row crop,1-D19 gas and All Crop 40,60,66,72,90 and 100
Back to Top
JC-WI View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: wisconsin
Points: 33780
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JC-WI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 10:29am
Sales brochure were labeled land handlers and then the were sales brochures that were labeled 'crop hustlers' and of course the first brochures had no desination other than one-eighty  and later 180... etc...
 So I believe these tractors came from the factory as labeled without, with Land Hndler , then later as Crop Hustler ( a cheapened version with only single headlight instead of dual...) .
He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."
Back to Top
AC720Man View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2016
Location: Shenandoah, Va
Points: 4861
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 3:54pm
My brother and I both have 1968 series II 190XT's, they both have Landhandler decals. This issue confused me to as I read in a AC book that the Landhandler name was given when the 220 went into production, I believe 2 years later. They also named the magazine Landhandler because it was so well liked. When I sandblasted the paint/decal off, the appearance of the decal seamed to be shadowed in the metal as if it was truly an origional decal to the tractor. Same thing with the tank decals. The pictures in the book also show a series II (although never decaled series II) with the Landhandler decal.
1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
Back to Top
AC720Man View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2016
Location: Shenandoah, Va
Points: 4861
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 7:33pm
i went to get the book from my dad. It states that the 220 production run started on march 17th, 1969. "The two-twenty became the first of the Landhandler tractors." So I am guessing maybe as someone posted earlier that decals were made available to older 190XT owners so they could add them. But there is clearly a 190XT with the Landhandler decal in the book. Also a series III with the decal. It also mentions the 220 was in a product change log in September 20th, 1967 to replace the D-21 by 1969. So the Landhandler name had been around since that time I assume. Who knows, but my Landhandler decal will be going on the new paint in less than a month no matter what.
1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
Back to Top
AC720Man View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2016
Location: Shenandoah, Va
Points: 4861
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 7:46pm
It also says the Crop Hustlers were the 175 and 185 tractors. Only diesels were built.
1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
Back to Top
ac fleet View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 12 Jan 2014
Location: Arrowsmith, ILL
Points: 2313
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ac fleet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 7:57pm
My 190xtdlll has the decals on it and it looks to be the original paint.----Buddies 200 also has the decal on it, --- so were they added, or were they factory applied? I sure don't know! thanks; ac fleet
Back to Top
tbran View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Paris Tn
Points: 3285
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tbran Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 8:17pm
the early XT had  decals that read  Console Control on the side sheets not landhandler.
When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
Back to Top
Unit3 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 17 Oct 2009
Location: NC Iowa
Points: 5529
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Unit3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 9:58pm
This was talked about before a few years back. Turns out that the Crop Hustler and Land Handler decals were applied at the dealerships. Some one on here has a 190ish model with both decals on it. Look at it from one side and it is a Crop Hustler. Go to the other side and it is a Land Handler.  

Edited by Unit3 - 04 Mar 2017 at 9:59pm
2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
Back to Top
skateboarder68 View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 29 Jan 2011
Location: Keota, IA
Points: 369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote skateboarder68 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 10:17pm
Have a 1973 185 crop hustler with dual headlights in each fender. I thought the crop hustler designation had something to do with pulling implements faster in the field. Pretty sure I read that in an AC book, anybody else recall??
Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240.
Back to Top
Travis2766 View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level
Avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2015
Location: Amherst, Wi
Points: 405
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Travis2766 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 7:55am
170, 180 and 190 were landhandler. I'm not sure about the 200 or the 210 but the 220 and 440 were also.

Edited by Travis2766 - 05 Mar 2017 at 7:57am
190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66 and a whole mess of equipment.
Back to Top
JPG AUSTRALIA View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Points: 749
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JPG AUSTRALIA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 8:21am
Both of the one ninetys we have had were series 3, neither had the landhandler decal on them.
Back to Top
AC720Man View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2016
Location: Shenandoah, Va
Points: 4861
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 8:36am
According to the book only 190XT, 200,210,220 were Landhandler tractors. Doess't say anything about, 170,180 tractors. 175,185 were the Crop Hustler tractors. The Console Control was indeed on the early 190, but appears starting in 1968 with the 190XT that was replaced by the Landhandler decal. Only going by the book.
1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
Back to Top
Calvin Schmidt View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario Can.
Points: 4520
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Calvin Schmidt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 10:13am
Norm Swinford's book states that the Landhandler program started with the 220. I checked my original brochures and the 220 is called the Landhandler tractor but no where in the brochure is there a picture of a 220 with the Landhandler decal  Brochures are dated 1970 and 1972. In Norm's book the 220 FWD picture appears to have the Landhander decal. The 1971 210 brochure has Landhandler decals on every picture. I did not see the Landhandler decal in any other brochure (OneNinety or 200). The 200 sales brochure calls it the Landhandler tractor as well. It is possible that the photos used in both 220 brochures were stock early photos of possible prototype tractors.
Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed
Back to Top
injpumpEd View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Walnut IL
Points: 4862
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote injpumpEd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 10:45am
From my memory of seeing tractors, and reading the bible, the landhandler name came in 70, so the first 220's would not have had it unless added later, by owner, or dealer. Even if a decal was added after it was a few years old, today, it would look original. The "console control" was on the series 1 one-nineties bar grill tractors. That goes along with the arrow style hood side decals. "Crop-Hustler" 175/185 was not a low cost option, but a high speed alternative to owners of 170/180 tractors. Slightly more power than the 170/180 so you could pull your same equipment faster, rather than having to buy a bunch of new equipment to go along with a new and bigger tractor. Remember, the 175/185 were ALL diesels until the 170 gas was discontinued, so then the 175 gas became available.
210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
Back to Top
AC720Man View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2016
Location: Shenandoah, Va
Points: 4861
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 2:29pm
I agree with you Ed, the decals would look factory if added at a later date by the dealer or customer. Most likely the case. It's a shame AC didn't keep better records or documentation to support our theories.
1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
Back to Top
Beirnesy View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2012
Location: Mid Western Ont
Points: 351
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Beirnesy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 2:36pm
I pretty much agree with Calvin and Ed :   


 

 I think AC slapped the "Landhandler" decal on all there cream striped  100, 200 series diesel tractors in 70,71,72. I have never seen the 200 model with  a "Land handler" decal the  190XT III yes.  I believe the 175,185 with black stipes where "Crop Hustlers" 

Here is a good thread with many 220 pics and also the 220 sales brochure (perhaps same brochure that Calvin has)
 
 
 Here is a e-bay brochure for the 170 and promotes  the "Landhandler"  name

I think the 426 powered AC's should have been the only ones with the "LandHandler" designation, but I guess its was all about marketing. 
 
 


Edited by Beirnesy - 05 Mar 2017 at 7:05pm
1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716
Back to Top
AC720Man View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2016
Location: Shenandoah, Va
Points: 4861
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 7:00pm
A lot of good info today on this topic. It has been some interesting posts. Thanks to all.
1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
Back to Top
Joe(OH) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Montezuma, Ohio
Points: 969
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Joe(OH) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 7:46pm
Norms book says that there were 512 to 220s produced in 1970. It also states that the Landhandler decals started in May of 1970. The first 220 front wheel assist was 2223 in June of 1970. Using those numbers to do the math my guess is the decals started around serial number 2150.
Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
Back to Top
ILGLEANER View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Willow Hill,ILL
Points: 6448
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ILGLEANER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 7:53pm
What this discussion proves. Is no one here really knows. What ever a guy wants to think. But no proof of anything.
Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.
Back to Top
DSeries4 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Points: 7304
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DSeries4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 9:13pm
Originally posted by ILGLEANER ILGLEANER wrote:

What this discussion proves. Is no one here really knows. What ever a guy wants to think. But no proof of anything.


Yep!  Lots of theories and assumptions, but no proof unfortunately.
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.047 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum