worn front end,D-15 II

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   The front end on my D-15 II is worn out from bucket use. Im thinking of changing the loader over from trip to the full hydraulic henry loader I have. I dont dare do that untill I rebush and pin the front end. Is it possible to rebush it with the casting still attached to the tractor or does the tractor have to be torn down and the casting removed? The Henry loader is very heavy.... would it be a mistake to put it on my fifteen? I thought if I do put it on the tractor Id look for a liter bucket for it...

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Brian S(NY) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: CherryValley,NY Points: 3378	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian S(NY) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: worn front end,D-15 II Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 10:54am
	The front end on my D-15 II is worn out from bucket use. Im thinking of changing the loader over from trip to the full hydraulic henry loader I have. I dont dare do that untill I rebush and pin the front end. Is it possible to rebush it with the casting still attached to the tractor or does the tractor have to be torn down and the casting removed? The Henry loader is very heavy.... would it be a mistake to put it on my fifteen? I thought if I do put it on the tractor Id look for a liter bucket for it...
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Kenny L. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NEIOWA Points: 1334	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kenny L. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 11:03am
	Brian, in my opinion you've to remove the cast to do the job the right way. It isn't that bad of a job. I took my to a weld shop and they redone everything that need to be redone and it made one he** of a different. HTH Kenny L.

Brian S(NY) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: CherryValley,NY Points: 3378	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian S(NY) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 11:10am
	Well if that true then I mite better look for another loader tractor, I cant see myself going without it while im waiting for the fifteen to be fixed. What other tractor would this henrey loader fit on? a 160?
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Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10699	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 11:20am
	The D15 front pivot is too light for heavy loader us. The pivot pin itself is too short, could be about one inch longer IIRR. The bearing surface from factory is about an inch at best. It can be repaired to be stronger and last longer. I have done several. HTH Tracy
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Dan73 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan73 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 1:01pm
	Trying to think how to describe it or what it is called but there are a set of bearing in the front end above the counter weight I think that the power steering can leak around. I would replace then as well if your front end has been used that much. My d15 has a ts500 loader i am sure it is heavier then the one you want to put on it. Or it might be the one you mentioned henry did make the ts500 for the d15 industrial. it is plenty heavy with w bucket full of manure the d15 doesn't want to turn. But if you are reasonable about loading it and don't plan on using it 8 hours a day every day it will hold up nicely.

DiyDave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53497	Post Options Post Reply Quote DiyDave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 6:09pm
	Get a FE off of an I-60 or I-600, not adjustable, but heavier, and bolt right up, if you can find one...

Brian S(NY) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: CherryValley,NY Points: 3378	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian S(NY) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 6:36pm
	thanks guys, lots to think about
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TimNearFortWorth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimNearFortWorth Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 7:38pm
	I have one to do and will definitely follow Tracy's suggestion on beefing up the depth and likely the OD of the pin itself also. I picked up a complete 415 loader with front pump a few years back and hope to get into her at some point. Jacking the entire front end off the ground and supporting it via the engine side rails, I could tell I had some wear but thought it was marginal. Then I used that same tractor to move 75 round bails with a A-C SC/3-pt. adaptor with the farthest bales a good mile from where they were to be stored. I could feel the front end "floating" as they were nice tight bales at approximately 1000-1100# and I only had two sectional pie weights attached to the engine side rails. What I found was shined up metal at the steering knuckle/bellhousing so the sleeve type bushing just in front of the knuckle is also worn. I will be addressing the following when we get into mine. - Re-bush or opening up female socket with larger longer pin to match. - R&R all gaskets/seals I find as the 15 PS is nice if it does not leak but once it starts, requires tear down as it will leak worse if not addressed. - R&R all PS fittings as most are nearly impossible to reach once assembly is put back on the tractor. - R&R the bushing in front of the steering knuckle (inside left side rail), to tighten everything up. Likely will tap for a zirk type fitting. Likely new knuckle as well. - R&R top and bottom bushings in the steering "knees" as I could also see a bit of wear when moving that hay, wear that I had never noticed before. Maybe bringing home the new to me 185 will be the driver to finally get the loader job/front end rebuild started, the old girl deserves it after all.