190xt Farm class puller

Hey everyone, as you can see i am new to the forum. I have seen lots of useful info so far. I bought a seriers II 190xtd in the spring to fix up. Big brother to my 2-little 720's. I will spare you on all the stuff I have repaired. I entered 2 farm class pulls(competition sure wasn't stock for sure) and although fun between me and my brothers 190xtd(only 4 serial numbers apart) we were out classed buy fire snorting modified tractors that had no business being in stock farm class. I Didn't do well against a few other stock tractors in the class either.  Second pull at least had a speed limit so we faired a little better. i was down on power but that has been resolved by the fine pump work by Ed Guenther. My pump head was worn out, after his fine work and the addition of some extra power she runs beautifully, with tons more power and response. Can't wait to hook to a sled next spring. With that being said, how does the 190 xtd hold up with this new found power? I replaced the stock clutch with a 6 puck. Are there weaknesses in the trans or rearend that I should address? Best location for weight bars? I presently attached a weight bar at the 4 bolt locations where the snap coupler would have attached, which is just in front of the rear tires. Is 700lbs too much to hang there? Keep in mind, I do use this on our small farm and only enter farm class. Don't have the funds to go differently. If someone has a 190 xtd out there I would like some valuable info please. I pull in 9,000 and 10,000 ib class. Not looking to change wheels, hubs to go into lighter class. Takes too many changes and money to get to 7,000 lb class. Pull as she is.

This is my slightly older brother. 

What speed is your "pace" ?? 5 or 6 MPH ??

The speed here is 5 or 6 mph , they have some 8 mph classes but for farm class that is to fast for stock tractors , I have done it just to see how I could do , I have to start out in 3rd low and then drop it to high and pin it and get around 7.6 or 7.8 mph , I'll still spin out in the end , it never falls below the turbo now sense I put the smaller exhaust housing on , but I don't want to tear up my power director shifting under a load like that , I have the pressure turned up on it but I know it's only a matter of time if I keep doing that something will fail ,

DrAllis wrote: "We were out classed by fire snorting modified tractors, that had no business being in a "stock" farm class".   Well, unfortunately, if you think you're going to have huge success with your tractor in the 9 and 10,000 pound class, you're probably wrong. Those classes generally have tractors that have larger engines than yours and that's just the way it is. 40 years ago when most 4020 Deere's didn't have a turbo on them, you could dominate things with a 190 XT. Not anymore. Have fun pulling it as she is. Going to be hard to really compete with 18.4 x 34 tires and 301 cubic inches.

Id have to disaqgree to point. We pull a series 111 xt with long bar short bar 18.4x34 tires stock motor, stock pressures,stock turbo and maybe pushing 110-115 hp and about 14psi with fluid in the tires it pulls in the 11,000 and 12,000lb classes and 300 lbs light in 12000 and routinely smokes D21s,210s, a jd4620, 4020s and an Oliver 1850 and tractors that have way more cubes and hp. The last pull we went to I put 20ft. on second place in the 12000lb class. I only run 1st low in 12 and 1st high in 11 anymore and it snuffs out. Saying that this was a very tacky track we run in between hot classes to spread out the weight throwing so it was setup for big hp and every track will vary and effect your placing alot.

Winning tractor pulling has always been about balance, traction, the sweet spot on the track,position in the line-up, and adequate HP. Mr. Harvestmoon, you are obviously doing many of those things right, and your competition doesn't understand how to get it done with what they've got.

Farm stock classes are like that here too. I've unhooked, taken duals off loaded up and went to the pull in the same day. I'd always beat the stock tractors but in the 15000 and 16000, when a tractor spins out in road gear everyone knows it's not stock. They have rules but there rules are vague and technically they fit.

pulling' it's not about how fast you go' it's about how far you go' right Dr' allis..

dawntreader74 wrote: pulling' it's not about how fast you go' it's about how far you go' right Dr' allis..

... but if you have enough power to go faster, you usually go a lot further!

Edited by WF owner - 25 Oct 2016 at 7:33am

Hopefully I won't be far behind you!

i meant InjpumpEd, sorry Ed!

More power ain't everything, don't get embarrassed when I slowly go past you!  

Jeez Robbie! Yours is only 11% over! lol! Should be good for right at 115hp!

just remember to never wash an injection pump while the engine is running!