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todd blair 
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Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 8:10pm |
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I have a series 1 d-17 allis, I don't know what kind of engine oil the previous owner put in, what type of oil is recommend.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 8:17pm |
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A lot depends on what grade of oil has been used in it previously. If the engine has a lot of sludge build up from using non detergent oil and you change to a high detergent you will need to change it and the filter again after a few hours because of sludge breaking loose and very likely do this several times. I would use a good 10w30 in it with cold weather just around the corner.
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Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 8:21pm |
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Thank you Hubert.
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Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 8:30pm |
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I like Rotella 10w30 it is diesel rated and has the additives that helps with the flat tappet. I run it year around in mine here in NH.
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Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 8:33pm |
Thank you Dan, I use to have a 8n ford and I put detergent oil in it and it cleaned the engine up but it made it start smoking. I used 10W30 penzoil.
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Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 9:20pm |
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Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 9:43pm |
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Engine gas or diesel? I use 5w40 in my WD45 gasser. Works well and starts in all weather even in winter. I'm in Ont canada. We get some real cool weather here. Oil is Petrocan synthetic or semi synthetic. Can't remember for sure which one. Have to check container.
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Allis dave
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Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 7:49am |
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I would start with 10w-30. Usually unless you're working long and hard in the summer, the 30 weight is thick enough. If you're having low oil pressure when warmed up, you could switch to 15w-40 with the next oil change.
I've been hearing people on here talk about the additives for flat tappets. What are these additives? I've always ran the Valvoline high mileage oil in my 45. I use the same oil in my truck and only stock one oil type. Is there something else I should be looking at?
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Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 7:52am |
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ZDDP is a Zinc additive you can add for flat tappets.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 8:03am |
 Allis dave wrote:
I would start with 10w-30. Usually unless you're working long and hard in the summer, the 30 weight is thick enough. If you're having low oil pressure when warmed up, you could switch to 15w-40 with the next oil change.
I've been hearing people on here talk about the additives for flat tappets. What are these additives? I've always ran the Valvoline high mileage oil in my 45. I use the same oil in my truck and only stock one oil type. Is there something else I should be looking at? |
Zinc (ZDDP) isn't an issue with these engines. It only becomes an issue with engines with higher lift cams with longer durations and greater spring pressures that really stress the cam lobes. None of which you find in the typical farm tractor engine - especially gas engines over 30 years old. Back when a D17 early series were new (when ZDDP would have been needed for the break in process) the oil didn't even have the ZDDP additive and many times nondetergent oil with no additives was being used.
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