Mark IV backhoe manual,,??

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    Hello to all,,,,,
   I am in dire need of a copy of the parts list and breakdown of the Swing tower on the Mark IV on my D14.
 After replacing all the hoses on the backhoe and Loader,  I got the tractor running, and the backhoe would only swing about 45° to the right  from straight forward. It will swing all the way to the left and almost to where it hits the left outrigger. When swinging to the right, it sounds like it hits a "stop" internally,,,,???
  All this has progressed to where the swing to the right, NOW,  just does not happen all the time, and when it does,,,is very very slow moving,,,!!!! AND,,,the boom always wants to drift to the left.
   I have been looking for a manual on ebay and amazon and while some are offered as Operators and "parts" manuals,,,,after contacting the sellers,,,the manuals do NOT show any parts or parts cross sections,, only operators manuals.
 Does anybody here got a manual they want to sell or sell me a copy of yours,,????
Thanks,,,!! 

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desertjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13522	Post Options Post Reply Quote desertjoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Mark IV backhoe manual,,?? Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 10:19pm
	Hello to all,,,,, I am in dire need of a copy of the parts list and breakdown of the Swing tower on the Mark IV on my D14. After replacing all the hoses on the backhoe and Loader, I got the tractor running, and the backhoe would only swing about 45° to the right from straight forward. It will swing all the way to the left and almost to where it hits the left outrigger. When swinging to the right, it sounds like it hits a "stop" internally,,,,??? All this has progressed to where the swing to the right, NOW, just does not happen all the time, and when it does,,,is very very slow moving,,,!!!! AND,,,the boom always wants to drift to the left. I have been looking for a manual on ebay and amazon and while some are offered as Operators and "parts" manuals,,,,after contacting the sellers,,,the manuals do NOT show any parts or parts cross sections,, only operators manuals. Does anybody here got a manual they want to sell or sell me a copy of yours,,???? Thanks,,,!!

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Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4520	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 5:07am
	The rotary swing cylinder was made by Cessna and was also used on some MF backhoes. May help you widen your search. I had an I-60. They all drift.
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desertjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13522	Post Options Post Reply Quote desertjoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 7:12am
	Hey Calvin,,,, many thanks for that info,,I appreciate you takin time to answer. The pump is a Cessna also,, I looked all over the tower and only found one set of numbers that are visible, but info may be on the bottom of tower. I did find a "willing to help", gentleman on Yesterday's Tractors that has volunteered copies of his manual and I'm pursuing that as I am striking out badly on this forum,,! I DO THANK YOU for your input, Calvin.

Dnoym N. S. Can. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Points: 544	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dnoym N. S. Can. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 7:38am
	is this any help . http://www.minnpar.com/manuals.asp B:-) Dnoym

desertjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13522	Post Options Post Reply Quote desertjoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 8:59am
	Hey Dnoym,,,THANKS for the response,,I appreciate your time. I did talk with "Gary" with Minn-Par yesterday, but he could not help me. Gary told me those manuals were no longer available from Minn-Par,,,,??? I wanted to talk with "John" as he is VERY thorough when lookin for this kind of stuff, but was not available. I had found that literature somewhere yesterday, but the closest thing was the 615 which uses two cylinders for the swing VS the "rotary" that the Mark IV uses,,,, I'm sure hopin the deal works out with the guy from Yesterday's Tractors,,,,, THANKS again,Guy,,,,

Dnoym N. S. Can. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Points: 544	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dnoym N. S. Can. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 7:49pm
	http://www.agcopartsbooks.com /PartsBooksN/Viewer/book.aspx?book=agco/819690 actuator , rotary http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/parts-repairs/ 275840-mf50h-backhoe-loader-rotary-actuator.html http://www.google.com/patents/US3929239 maybe try this B:-) Dnoym Edited by Dnoym N. S. Can. - 12 Jul 2016 at 8:24pm

desertjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13522	Post Options Post Reply Quote desertjoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 11:38pm
	MR.DNOYM You just do not know how much I appreciate you takin time to help a fellar that's too cheap to pay somebody else to fix his tractor,,,,,,HA,,!! ,But I don't feel too awful bad,,,cause they ain't nobody within a couple hundred miles that would have worked on it anyways,,,,,,SO,,,I thank you,,,psst,,,do you like Black Label,,,????? Seriously,,,I was sorta hesitant in tearin that monstrosity down not knowin what was inside. I especially like thet write up by thet Guy from the UK,,,he's a dandy,,,!!! Do you know anything bout them things as to WHAT may be the problem in it not wantin to swing to the right,,,??? I owe you one,,,and be proud to call you a friend,,,!!!!

Dnoym N. S. Can. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Points: 544	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dnoym N. S. Can. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jul 2016 at 6:09am
	Hi it`s your friend from up here in Canada. The only thing i know about them is not too get one ! (part no longer available ) find one with cylinder`s but a friend of mind did fix one of them but had to make his own parts but his was a oil leak problem. From what you have been telling us i wounder if the problem is not in the control`s, (left swing is not fighting with right swing ) but here is some more reading for you let us know how you make out (Cessna rotary swing cylinder) (wasn't Cessna Hydraulics acquired by Eaton) http://vieux.tracteurs.free.fr/pdf/ massey_ferguson_50b_manuel_p241_295.pdf B:-) Dnoym

JoeO(CMO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694	Post Options Post Reply Quote JoeO(CMO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jul 2016 at 11:05am
	I think I have info you are looking for Mark IV effective serial #2A-1248 and up


desertjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13522	Post Options Post Reply Quote desertjoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jul 2016 at 10:22pm
	Well,,,JOE,o,,,,Hey ,,,I Like thet name,,,,!!! gosh,,,I'm glad you chimed in. How can I talk you into lettin me see the section on the Rotary swing tower,,,ain't got an idea what the proper description for this thing is,,, I'll PM you my Email and phone,,,see how we can get it done,,,,OK,,???