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steve 
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 10:13pm |
sorry for the non Allis question. But my Mother in law is in the market for a small gas chain saw to prune small limbs. Well last summer I was at the the local Lawnmower shop and they had a very small Stihl. At first I thought it was some sort to joke it was so small. But I did pick it up and it seemed real enough at the time. Well the shop is no more and I was wondering if anyone has seen a ridiculously small Stihl with a 10" or so bar and were I could find one?
Sorry for the non-allis Question....
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 10:41pm |
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try your local stihl dealer or husqvarna dealer I know the small ones your talking about basically a limb saw
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 11:01pm |
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I think you are talking about an 010, with a handle up the top of the saw. Really nice limbing saw but kind of pricey, seems like they were over $400 new 5 years ago.
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 11:03pm |
it looked like a really small regular saw
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 6:00am |
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I know the dealer around here have small saws for around 170 buck. ms170. They do make smaller "top handle" saws, but they are a different animal to use and unless you know what you are doing, they are not the best for the average consumer. No kickback protection, or at least not much. Tree trimmers use them one handed
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 7:32am |
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I would suggest an electric chain saw. It's light, no gas and oil to mix and no pull starting and I was surprised on how well they work. My dad had one and so I got it out and used it. It cuts great and had plenty of power to run the 10" bar. Wish I could remember the brand name. Only disadvantage is having to use an extension cord. Without sounding sexist, it would be perfect for a woman.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 8:52am |
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I have to ask. How old and strong is she? Does she realize that chainsaw are the most dangerous tools there is? Does she have the strength and knowhow to avoid injury? If she is injure is someone going to be there to help? I always recommend getting chaps as well.
As Larry said, the really small top handle saws are for professionals tree climbers and lack many of the safety features. I won't use one and I have a 750 homelite (BIG) saw that I use regularly.
The MS170 would be alright for a home owner to prune with or clean up storm damage.
May I recommend however a Japanese Pull Saw. They are light weight, cut like the devil, and really don't take much power. They are much safer in the fact that they might still cut you but not to the bone, just superficially unless you have no nerve feeling.
Stan, I have used electric chain saws, one stihl that was the cats meow for bucking in a yard. Ironically they are considered more dangerous than a gas saw. A gas saw doesn't have as much torque. When you saw into chain saw safety chaps a wad of fibers gets pulled out from inside the chaps and jambs the saw. Some electric saws have enough torque to keep turning with even the crap in the saw.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 9:32am |
As the state trainer (Oklahoma) for the Southern Baptist Disaster Relief, I have to agree. Stay away from a top-handled saw. The 170 is not a bad sa, and we've used a few. Saw's are kinda like guns. Heavier frame can make things happen a little more controlled. I have an 010, but it's never run right, and I just use my 036 for most work.
To be real honest, if it's something I could take care of 1 or 2 times a year for my mother in law, I would feel better doing it myself. Get her a good set of bypass loppers. Somce even have a mechanism that give you a leverage advantage. They will cut up to 2" limbs, and are much safer.
There are more people injured during the cleanup phase of a disaster than during the actual disaster. Everyone runs to home depot and buys a $100 saw and it's the 1st time they ever held one. A little training goes a long ways.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 9:33am |
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I purchased a ms 170 for limbs cause I started fealing the weight of my 036 on prunning jobs. I like the ms 170 its light and has decent power to cut small trees or large limbs.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 9:42am |
Maybe it all depends on how much Steve likes his MIL. LOL
I know that I have never used chaps or a helmet with shield until this year. Never had a close call but when I'm at the farm I'm usually by myself, which is not good so I decided it was foolish to not have and use all the protective gear available. It only takes one time.
Dad one time was cutting down a tree in the winter next to the creek. Because the wood/tree was frozen it split and kicked back hitting dad as dad was too close and didn't have room next to the creek bank to get any further away. Anyway it hit him and tossed him onto the ice in the bottom of the creek. Broke his collar bone and ankle. How he crawled up the bank and got on the tractor was beyond me but he did and made it to the house where mom drove him to the emergency room. Spent a few days in the hospital. Dad sold the wood stove after that and gave away his supply of wood. Can't blame him for that!
Sorry to get off topic.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 12:09pm |
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I have a 10" Remmington electric chain saw that I like to use for light work. It is easy to hold in one hand so that you can hold onto and clear small branches away with the other hand. It also mounts on a telescoping pole that came with it so that I can reach up 14' or more to cut off overhanging limbs.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 6:22pm |
Steve
If you and MIL are gonna be around long enough or if those trees are older I have a totally different suggestion. See if she wil go halfzies with you on a pole saw - that is if you got trees also. Those babies will reach way up there and you can keep your feet on the ground. Given MIL is close enough for the commute mand you are the loving SIL that just cannot wait to go and doo yard work. What do ya think of that idea?
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 6:24pm |
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MS 192T Stihl is a tophandle saw. Will stand up in tough conditions. Very light, less than 7 lbs (10 with bar). Cost just over $300. A conventional grip is also available for the 192. The 192 has 2 chokes which is a little different. The Stihl 170 OR 180'S are in the $200 range and meant for very light duty work. I believe 12 inch is about the smallest bar for them. The saws can be purchased with an ez to start feature that requires a very light pull. You can't go wrong with a Husqvarna or Stihl. I can only say good things about either. They are great saws. My saws always crank when I need them. Some other saws do not want to crank after they get hot, or have set for a long period. One bit of caution, if you by a Husqvarna from one of the large chain stores (sears,lowes,tsc) you will run into some headache for warranty work. I personally love my top handle saws,never had a safety issue with them. They have a chain brake but some other Stihl saws have a secondary chain brake built in for safety. The letter Q will be in the model #
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 6:29pm |
heres my ms 170 beside my 036.
I gave 150 at a pawn shop for my 036 . Bought the ms 170 at a small engine repair shop for 100 
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 7:24pm |
I think this saw would be perfect for her! 
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 7:42pm |
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irlbeck. My neighbor has one just like that never has been able to oil the bar good enough to keep it form getting hot , The company and several dealers have tried to fix it with no luck he really would like to sell it.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 7:48pm |
Whats he want for it ? will 100 buy it
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 7:49pm |
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I was just thinking if your buying a saw for the mother in law why not go all the way! Tell her to look at the bright side,at least the saw is orange. :>)
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 7:51pm |
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Dad had on of them pole saws. I can out cut it with my piranha style hand saw that folds up and goes in my pocket. If you want to cut for an hour on 1 inch limbs you will need about 6 to 8 batteries to keep it going. It's a Black and Decker and uses the same battery as the wife's string trimmer. The trimmer will run as long as she wants to trim but the saw will do about 4 one inch branches on a charge.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 7:58pm |
 irlbeck A-C'S wrote:
I was just thinking if your buying a saw for the mother in law why not go all the way! Tell her to look at the bright side,at least the saw is orange. :>) |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9x8rBKC4BE&NR=1
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 8:03pm |
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That's funny right there!
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 9:47pm |
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get her an electric chain saw, cheap and easy to repair/replace!
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 10:24pm |
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That saw on Youtube would make a man out of you after humping it up and down the hills we have around here all day!
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Posted: 12 Jun 2010 at 10:21am |
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mlpankey. He has over $1000 in it , If a hundred would buy it I would have it.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2010 at 5:15pm |
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well it would be one way to end him putting more money in it .
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Posted: 12 Jun 2010 at 5:25pm |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
Dad had on of them pole saws. I can out cut it with my piranha style hand saw that folds up and goes in my pocket. If you want to cut for an hour on 1 inch limbs you will need about 6 to 8 batteries to keep it going. It's a Black and Decker and uses the same battery as the wife's string trimmer. The trimmer will run as long as she wants to trim but the saw will do about 4 one inch branches on a charge. |
Shoulda been more specific I guess. The gas powered pole saws are the cats meow.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2010 at 6:20pm |
mlpankey wrote:
Whats he want for it ? will 100 buy it |
Last I knew he was asking $750 for it. Probably has less than 10 hours on it
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Posted: 12 Jun 2010 at 7:34pm |
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I should also have been more specific about my electric pole saw. It is 110v so you do need drag a cord around. Lots of power. It does not have an automatic oiler so you do have to manually oil the chain.
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