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mgburchard 
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 1:56pm |
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Larry(OH)
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 2:08pm |
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Looks good to me and would be a good mate to the cam you got from me. Put it with a down draft 2V on it, a header, and I bet she'll run nice. Most likely not real good to go slow with
Edited by Larry(OH) - 02 Oct 2014 at 2:10pm
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mgburchard
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 2:22pm |
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Larry that cam shaft has been sold for nearly two years now .I wouldn't waste time on a two barrel when panks got a 4 inch toilet
Edited by mgburchard - 02 Oct 2014 at 2:23pm
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 3:32pm |
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that is wi50 head he has on facebook for sell
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 3:36pm |
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that is wi50 head he has on facebook for sell |
are you sure 
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 4:40pm |
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Well, if you look at the intake valve to plug pocket, the head with the nice port work has much larger valves. It also has a stainless wire o ring.
The valves are seated higher on the head in the first picture, rather than sunk in as on your second picture. This allows the valve to start flowing earlier and improves flow at low to mid lifts. Again, much more experience in the top picture.
Look at a fine example of a venturi effect in the cuts under the seat angles in that first picture.
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Ken(MI)
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 4:49pm |
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Does every Southern Machinist use a rusty framing square to measure? That's a dandy right there....
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 4:53pm |
Ken(MI) wrote:
Does every Southern Machinist use a rusty framing square to measure? That's a dandy right there.... |
no we use dividers like real machinist did before the invention of micrometers. Lol
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 6:34pm |
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 6:42pm |
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Don't worry guys, pank knows the "mazak language"
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 7:14pm |
Guys what about the port work? As for dividers they come in inside and outside as well I guess you have to recognize this logo to understand the language 
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 7:40pm |
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 7:47pm |
not on Facebook pulling forum they didn't like seeing panks work
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 7:52pm |
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its the same pic of the head that marty has for sell on there go look
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 8:01pm |
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 8:10pm |
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different yet head no ring groove
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 8:13pm |
patrickmull wrote:
different yet head no ring groove |
yep we wondered where it got off to once it was o-ring couldn't keep it from leaking water
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 8:19pm |
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so you're saying marty got his head from pank I don't think so
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 8:25pm |
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so you're saying marty got his head from pank I don't think so |
not directly it was a bundle package probably passed around several times
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 8:50pm |
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 9:00pm |
patrickmull wrote:
no way
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If we could ask Pankey he would probably deny it . He would say he could hand port more symmetrical than the ovals showing but reality he wasn't perfect when he started . if you notice panks blocks have o-ring register in block .he learned this from that leaky head after all a .032 deep register cut into a head that's been surfaced a few times is getting close to water not to mention when its in the head the bore diameter has to be taken into consideration or it could be sticking inside bore when head is placed .
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 9:09pm |
How are we supposed to critique the port work Pank? By how shiny and smooth it is? First job given to an apprentice in a Iron foundry is grinding away casting flash. Looks like you passed first day die grinder at the foundry. I can coment on the valve jobs. The person who preformed the seat work on the first head has played around with a flow bench and knows that valves flow best when seated high,either that or he was just lucky and that's where they came out how would I know? We were taught even in trade school that a person doesn't want to sink valves such as was done on the head in picture #2 as it will affect flow even on a normal rebuild, let alone performance applications. Next time Pank give me a shout as I am tooled up to install seats and can bring those valves back up to the correct height for you . Seat work aside I have no opinion of the work. Shiny appeals to Crows and Squirrels but gains nothing in a port. Big impresses the girls but doesnt directly translate to HP out of a porting job either. I have seen some fancy looking work that didnt build power. How much power was made with the heads at what cubic inch? What did they flow on the bench? As for what they look like in a picture? Who cares.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 9:57pm |
mgburchard wrote:
Guys what about the port work? As for dividers they come in inside and outside as well I guess you have to recognize this logo to understand the language |
I guess you don't know SQUAT about measuring tools either cause the inside and outside measuring devices you are talking about are called calipers.
Description6" Inside and Outside Spring Calipers are a shop necessity for measuring inside and outside diameters. Often space is too tight to get an accurate measurement using a scale-type measuring tool. The spring calipers allow the user to transfer the dimensions of a workpiece to a scaled device.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 9:59pm |
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 6:07am |
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And it just keeps getting better.....
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 6:15am |
Ken(MI) wrote:
And it just keeps getting better..... |
A person must learn in steps Ken. Remember the pulling hitch build, rear wheel cuts and oil cooler installation photos? At least now they have acquired SOMETHING to measure with  When they clean the rust off of that square they will be able to direct read in 1/8" increments and if they can see good they can eyeball down to a smidgen or maybe even a hair.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 7:33am |
I'm not really sure what the display of a Union Logo has to do with anything, I've known many guys that I would be proud to hold the oil can for that never had a Union card. If we are going to show logos, let's do it attached to an item that stands for something. Here's my logo, attached to my diploma and dues book, now let's see what Pank and mgburchard have to offer since they started this, another challenge if you will Gents??  
You don't get one of these pretending in the backyard or your Buddies shop, you either have it or you don't, since you claim to have Union status of what you know, lets see it... I'm guessing it's going to be like the Gleason.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 4:14pm |
Ken I don't know why I play your silly games but I do  Check mate stubby ,lol
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 7:59pm |
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I don't see anyone's name on it. Hold up on the check mate.
Edited by O.P.S. Heads - 03 Oct 2014 at 8:02pm
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Posted: 04 Oct 2014 at 3:52pm |
mgburchard wrote:
Ken I don't know why I play your silly games but I do
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Because silly games is the primary reason you are here to begin with Pank. Such as why post a picture you took from Marty's facebook page and post it here without saying so? Too bad the ploy didnt work. The Experts work got picked out
As did the wannabe's
Where is the two wire Gleason you claimed to own and operate? Liar
Edited by Butch(OH) - 04 Oct 2014 at 3:54pm
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