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how much hp from 226?
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    Posted: 13 Dec 2013 at 9:13pm
How much can you get with 226 ci. with the best carb, cam, compression,D17 spring, flow etc. ? thanks
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If you can find m&w pistons for a 201 will bring up comp. quite a bit. Assuming rpm. that most pulls allow, around 18-1900, around 60 is about the best I've got.
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Wasn't a 175 gas (226) rated at 60 some HP? So that would be top of the tractor series.

The Combine and Power units were rated higher but that was Flywheel HP
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The model 175 gas tractor was rated at 60 HP at the PTO and 67 HP at the flywheel, both at 1800 RPM loaded. I'd guess with a well tuned D-19 style carb, that stock engine could see maybe 73-75 flywheel HP at 1800 RPM, but at 2000 loaded RPM for sure. More compression and good racing gas will just keep adding to those HP numbers.
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Thanks for your replies. Now lets go the other way, lets say its only gonna turn 1500-1600 rpm, how can you make this engine lug--torque? I am guessing cam and its timing would be a big part of that, how about compression? I always heard high compression is great for hp, but not torque. I have also heard high compression with good fuel and retard the timing will bring torque. I am trying to figure out if there is any way to get enough power to run 38 inch wheels on my wc in the 4000lb. class. I have seen WDs with 45 crank and 4.125 flat tops struggle to do it. I know wd is geared lower than wc, so I wonder if I can do it with out building a "bigger enginge".
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Camshaft timing advance would help with "lug".   These flywheel HP specs are from a standard D-17 gasoline @ 1400 rpm.....52.0 HP @ 1300 rpm......48.2 HP @ 1200 rpm......44.2 HP @ 1100 rpm......40.2 HP @ 1000 rpm........35.7 HP @ 900 rpm........31.4 HP @ 800 rpm...............peak torque was at 1100 rpm with 211 ft lbs.
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Compression will help with torque. 
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Would a heavery flywheel help on lugging down?
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Heavier flywheel helps somewhat delay the "stalling" of the engne as the load increases. Doesn't make any more HP, but helps in some situations and surely never hurts.
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Has anyone ever put a gas head on some thing like a 226 diesel block ? Just a lame idea.It would have higher compression and have stronger parts in all the bottom end.
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Originally posted by wfmurray wfmurray wrote:

Has anyone ever put a gas head on some thing like a 226 diesel block ? Just a lame idea.It would have higher compression and have stronger parts in all the bottom end.

No such thing as a 226 diesel block.
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