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maurice 
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Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 4:40pm |
I have WD tricycle with two wheels on front. Before I un-bolt the tricycle front away from the side rails, does anyone have an estimate of how much it weighs? I'd like to be prepared so I can avoid injury to self! I plan to support and block up the side rails and rest of the tractor, and there is no engine nor radiator on it at this time.
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Chad(WI)
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Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 4:56pm |
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Hate to state the obvious, but It's gonna be mighty top-heavy. Hope you plan on using a hoist of some kind for help. As far as weight.....guessing around #150. I'm sure someone else will chime in with a better idea.
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AaronSEIA
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Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 5:13pm |
I'd say north of 150. I can manhandle 150, but that thing was more than I could get off the ground. AaronSEIA
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 6:16pm |
I used the engine lift on mine and it worked pretty well. It's really more than you would want to man-handle.
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bryan/silex
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Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 8:30pm |
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yes it will be top heavy, very. Use a hoist to support it, cause it will want to flop over on you. dont need to mash any toes or anything else!
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j.w.freck
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Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 11:18pm |
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if you remove the nose steering fixture the way john is removing it (which is pretty much the way to do it) it will weigh pretty close to 175-200 lbs.if you have fluid in the tires you are looking at well over 200 lbs plus...
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maurice
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 5:52pm |
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Thanks everyone! I hope to get out to the barn soon.
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Dave (Mid-MI)
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 8:19pm |
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There may be a significant difference in the weight of the assembly, depending on the SN of your tractor. In the OM for the WD 54 two way plow it states that front wheel weights should be used on tractors prior to SN 71438, except tractors equipped with the wide front axle. I have read on this forum before that the WC pedestal assembly was much lighter than the WD assembly. Maybe the WD's prior to SN 71438 used the same casting as the WC.
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 9:49am |
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There seems to be 3 weight # for these. The early wc ones are #120 the wc/wd ones are #180 and if you get into the wd45 they were #320. A wide front is about #350. I swaped out the 45 one for a early wc one and lost #200 of the nose of the tractor.
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maurice
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Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 7:40am |
Thank you everyone! I remembered that I made this a few years ago and since it was built to disassemble to store in a small place, it was "out of sight out of mind"! I tested by lifting whole front of tractor before unbolting from frame. Then took off the front wheels.
Unfortunately, 3 of the bolts sheared off:
That 4th hole has been drilled and tapped for an oversize bolt. The other side has a similar oversize hole but had no bolt.
I remember some tips for getting these out - heat then melt parrifin or wax onto it, or penetrating oil, or drill and tap, or place a washer then empty nut then weld to the broken stud, ...
Also, the "bearing" or hub that both front wheels turn in (my book calls it "spindle block" -I&T Shop Service AC Shop Manual) wobbles when in the air. Is this normal or bad?
Based on your experiences, any tips?
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 9:27am |
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Cool lifting rig- I like it!
Weld a nut to 'em... let 'em cool, zap 'em again for a few cycles... they'll back right out.
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Brian G. NY
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Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 11:41am |
Also, the "bearing" or hub that both front wheels turn in (my book calls it "spindle block" -I&T Shop Service AC Shop Manual) wobbles when in the air. Is this normal or bad?
Certainly not normal; could be bad or maybe not too bad.
If the shaft is worn, either where it passes thru the bearing or where it goes into the "block", you have a problem. If the bearing itself is loose and/or worn out, not such a big problem.
I bet you've torn it apart by now and know exactly what you've got?!
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maurice
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Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 3:06pm |
Thanks for the compliment Dave!
I'm wondering how deepy it's seized.
I have not got it torn apart yet. This book does not show a bearing, which I forgot to post earlier...
Another delay to my original project! :)
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