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Josh(NE) 
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Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 8:45pm |
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Is there any servicing that can be done without splitting the tractor? I put a new clutch in 300hrs ago and now I have a dry bearing sound when I push in the clutch pedal. Any ideas what to do, or do I have no option but to split it and replace it?
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'65 190XT, 37 B, '72 170, '83 8030, and the IH 560 was a mistake
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MACK
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Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 9:42pm |
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Was the bearing replaced when clutch was replaced? If it is thrust bearing, nothing to do except split it again. MACK
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Mike Kroupa
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Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 10:53pm |
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Had the same thing happen with our 200 loader tractor. Go get the longest 1/8 drill bit you can find and drill a hole in the outside of the brg., then you can lube it with a neddle, rotate it several times and continue to add grease, put a dab of rtv over the hole when finished. It will live until the clutch needs relacing again, then you can drill the hole bigger and install a small grease zerk. Good Luck, Mike
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Josh(NE)
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Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 11:40pm |
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Thanks Mike that is a great idea!
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DrAllis
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Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 7:36am |
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I'm having a hard time believing a new AGCO throwout brg has failed in only 300 hrs of use. Whenever replacing a clutch, you better be adjusting the freeplay of the clutch pedal to be 4 inches minimum (180-190-200) and maintain that distance. Too little freeplay and the throwout brg MAY be spinning all the time which will surely cause a premature failure. Again, I've never seen a failure of a NEW throwout brg if adjusted/maintained properly ( and the operator leaves his foot off the clutch pedal) in only 300 hrs use.
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Mike Kroupa
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Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 9:52am |
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Mine didn't fail, it just got dry and noisy, after lots of loader work and yes I kept the clutch adj. I could never figure out why A-C put a greasable brg. on the wd/wd45's and not the bigger models. Lots of good info in your post Doc., Mike
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DrAllis
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Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 10:13am |
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They quit making it a greasable brg because people overgreased it and grease would get on the clutch. The standard pre-packed throwout brg will generally out-last the clutch (as a rule) if it is kept adjusted properly AND the operator keeps his foot off of it.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 2:30pm |
Could it also be the pilot bearing? If it is getting hard to shift, I would suspect a pilot bearing, but I had a throwout bearing go bad in a year, but it was an A&I aftermarket bearing.
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Josh(NE)
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Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 10:02pm |
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It shifts fine, I can't remember where the clutch kit came from, its likely not from agco. This is also a loader tractor, but I don't abuse the clutch, adjustment is fine.
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