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D-10 Power shift rear wheel...eccentrics STUCK

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    Posted: 24 May 2011 at 7:23pm
In my effort to change the width of the rear wheels, I cannot get the eccentrics to move.  I can't get a socket to fit snugly on the 1/2" square drive.  I have tried a 1/2" drive extension reversed with a pipe wrench on the male end to no avail.  Anyone have any suggestion as to how I can break them?   

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  take the wheel off an get a bfh is the easiet --1-574-342-4545
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Like Norm says. Take the wheel off, lay it down, unbolt the clamps, and knock the center out with a sledge. The ecentrics are much easier to loosen without the pressure from the wheel on them.
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Follow above, then you may need heat to loosen up. May be able to pound eccentric out. Also use penatrating oil
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As mentioned above, best to separate the wheel center from the rim and unbolt the eccentrics from the center.  The ones on my D14 and D15 were so rusted that the cutting torch would not even loosen them.  I threw them in the wood stove for a day - worked great!  Everything came apart real easy after that.
 
Once apart, I sandblasted all of the pieces and put them back together.  Works really smooth now.
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Originally posted by norm[ind norm[ind wrote:

]  take the wheel off an get a bfh is the easiet --1-574-342-4545


Hi Norm.  What's a bfh?
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Thanks for all the replies.  Looks as if I'll need to take the wheel off for sure.  Wonder if that power shift worked well when new?
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Originally posted by D10ACNC D10ACNC wrote:

Originally posted by norm[ind norm[ind wrote:

]  take the wheel off an get a bfh is the easiet --1-574-342-4545


Hi Norm.  What's a bfh?
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Link to a previous post (with pictures and good instructions) on this subject. Patience and persistance will save the eccentrics; heat and extensive force can ruin them.
 
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Greg is exactly right.  Excessive force can ruin them.  I am living proof that long cheater bars are NOT the correct tool.
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I had the same problem on my CA. I placed a 1" socket 1/2 inch drive on the eccentric. I welded a bolt into a 4' length of pipe, placed the bolt into the socket, once it moved a little I worked it back and forth until free. 
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I have a set of square drive Matco sockets and a breaker bar that works well. I ussually soak them in penatrant and beat them with a hammer a few times. Most times they break loose pretty easy. The smaller 1/2 drive D series and CA will break though. One on my CA is snapped off.

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I take mine off like mentioned and then remove the snap rings and press the pins out. You can press them out long before you can turn them.  Dave.
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  THEY WORKED OK WHEN NEW AN NOT FULL OF DIRT AN GRIME
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Originally posted by GregLawlerMinn GregLawlerMinn wrote:

Link to a previous post (with pictures and good instructions)


Great suggestion, Greg.  Pictures always help.  Thanks.
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Originally posted by Bull Bull wrote:

I placed a 1" socket 1/2 inch drive on the eccentric. I welded a bolt into a 4' length of pipe, placed the bolt into the socket


Great idea. 
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Big Flippin' Hammer.
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Ha, ha.  Thanks Dave.
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