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boscoe 
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 Topic: your opinion of value on AC tractor
Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 9:48pm |
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A guy wanted to know if I was interested in his 190 XT Diesel for parts or fix , has cab , runs real good, overall good condition. Trans problem pops out of all gears except for reverse, he said it is because a shaft is broken in trans , does this sound right , would it be a large job to fix , whats it worth? and what do you think?
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1959 D 17 gas , 1964 190 gas, 1965 190xt gas AC 4bottom slat plow, 6 row 30in #72 planter Im not getting bigger my cloths are just getting smaller.
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DSeries4
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Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 10:15pm |
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If it jumps out of every gear, I would not go over $2500. For trans and rear end repairs, You'll be looking at an extra $2000 (give or take) to spend.
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brettIA
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Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 10:20pm |
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before you go any further check if reverse has both high & low speeds , that is a whole different amount of money to fix besides the tranny!
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Bill Long
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 1:05am |
All right, I did not sell or service a 190 but if the transmission is similar to a constant mesh WD45 and D series tractors it is the gears and collars of a constant mesh transmission. That is still a heavy duty overhaul job. Also, be certain you listen carefully to what Brett says. I cannot confirm but that sounds serious.
In any event let us know what you do and what you find if you buy it.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 7:05am |
Well with out seeing the tractor ,knowing more about it $1500.oo .Unless tires are all good ,front end tight ,etc. etc. etc. .How many Hours on engine? . Did he have it checked out to know what shaft is broken?.
If you can not do the work yourself $2000.oo to $2500.oo is not going far .The unknowen can kill your piggy bank. Or make it a dead horse!
I will not give a price on fixing these tran's unless I have the tractor in the shop with top off trans ,then you still do not know everything you need, until it is totaly apart !
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 7:11am |
Be great for blowing snow ! Seriously, inside could cost big bucks!! I have no knowledge of what's in there, just know from experience, things always are busted worse and cost more than anyone's crystal ball says !!
If cheap enough, great for parts, or if you can hold on, find one with a good tranny,blown engine, and make one good tractor....?
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MACK
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 8:03am |
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If it jumps out of all gears, 2000 won't buy all the gears. Never saw a shaft broke in a 190 trans. MACK
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Brad-MN
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 9:35am |
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If my memory serves me a new 3rd gear for a 190 was around 500 bucks 10 years ago...that's just one gear! Another thing to consider is tearing it apart to even get at the trans, it's a pain in the rear. I think you have to take the entire rear end apart and pull the main shaft of the transmission out through the rear housing to get the gears off the main shaft, my point is that it's a really big job and takes alot of time and alot of money when you start replacing gears anywhere in those transmissions.
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Chris/CT
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 9:45am |
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1,400-1,800 depending on variables as noted by others. Here's something to remember, not all the gearing,shafts, etc will need replacing [ well, maybe not ALL the parts] one can assume some of the trans. parts are OK to re-use. Some folks get hung-up on having everything new, I have seen top notch AC mechanic[s] re-use parts in good working condition. One big factor is the time investment, do you have better things to be doing??
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boscoe
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 11:12pm |
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If we can agree with a price i will post pics and other info, it has a cab and would like that for my 190, its cold and snowing here again 9 months of winter nice to have cab.
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1959 D 17 gas , 1964 190 gas, 1965 190xt gas AC 4bottom slat plow, 6 row 30in #72 planter Im not getting bigger my cloths are just getting smaller.
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Brad(WI)
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 7:06am |
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I bought used gears for my 180 trans. I believe I paid around $150 each, and were like new. You don't need to buy new stuff for an old tractor, unless you plan on using it daily and working it hard. I would still go with used. Might be able to buy a complete trans at a scrapyard for a good price. Call one up and get an idea on price and availability.
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boscoe
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 8:54am |
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i have a 190xt that i use for parts now so i have the parts its just a matter of how big of job it would be , to me its hard to imagine every gear is bad,i would guess it is something else, but i dont know. i would be doing the repairs myself.
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1959 D 17 gas , 1964 190 gas, 1965 190xt gas AC 4bottom slat plow, 6 row 30in #72 planter Im not getting bigger my cloths are just getting smaller.
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