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    Posted: 08 Feb 2011 at 8:46pm

I have a 1960 Series I D17 and i was wondering what kind of crankshaft pulley it has, if it has bolts on it or if its a single bolt or what? and also did they put crank start pulleys on them? any help would be appreciated. thanks Steve
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I'm not sure they have a crank start pulley. I would guess it would have one with a bolt flange on it for a front mount pump. I guess the only way to know for sure is get in there and look.
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yeah the only thing is that its kind hard to see anything in mine theres a ton of grease and dirt packed up there and i cant tell what it has.
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It is keyed to the shaft with a tapered setscrew from the side. The front has a crank slot in it. No bolts or bolt pattern in front. The E gleaner used one with bolts in the front for a drive.   MACK
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If the tractor had an Allis loader with front hyd. pump the pulley would have four bolt holes to hold the drive-shaft adaptor.  Standard pulley would have crank slot.
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From the Manual:
"Effective with gasoline tractor S/N D17-15931 and diesel tractor S/N 16035 and engine S/N 104840, crankshaft pulleys for front mounted drives were used in production.
When mounting front mounted pumps or similar equipment on tractors prior to the above serial numbers, it will be necessary to order these pulleys from Parts. The mounting flange hub and shaft which attaches to the pulley is furnished by the Allied Equipment Manufacturer."
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heres some pics of what i found out this weekend on my D17.
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Could you tell me the center to center measurement between the holes in that pulley?
Also, the size of the holes and if they are threaded?
I would like to put a front mount pump on my D-17 and if I had that info, I could be looking around in my piles of "stuff" for an adaptor I could bolt on there without taking mine apart right now.
Really would appreciate it.  Thanks
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i dont know off hand the measurement, i wont get back to the tractor till friday, the holes i think are 3/8 and they are treaded, i can let you know when i get a chance to look at it, and im getting a mounting kit from the local agco dealer they can get them yet
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Thanks, I'm sure that adaptor is not cheap from Agco, so I would like to see if I could make my own if that's possible.
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yeah i dont know im haveing my dad going to buy it tommorow so i could let you know what it runs.
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Thanks, You never know, you might be pleasantly surprised, but not likely.
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true, but regardless i need it, for my pump to work, so we will find out tommorow i guess.
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Brian,

If you remember I posted pics of my d19 with a front mounted pump. I am not a machinist, but I made my own hub to bolt to the crank. Just make a center punch mark in a piece of 3/8 plate and then use a divider and compass to make your bolt hole measurements. A rule will not get you accurate. Make sure to double check the center and bolt hole locations with the divider.   For the hub, I used a 3/4 keyed and set screw hub from tractor supply. I centered it by drilling a locating hole from the center mark and then driving a piece of rod into the 3/8 plate. The rod could then be driven out after the hub had been welded to the plate. Hope this helps. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

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Thanks Brad,
I think I copied the pics of your front mounted pump mainly for the
mounting setup. As I recall, it was a nice clean job.
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Brian,
my dad went and order that kit and it was $70, so not to bad.
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Actually, a lot less than I had imagined it would be.
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