Begining a D17 restoration

Don't know when,but last 17's had pipe screwed in manifold and the muffler sliped on with a clamp.I think it started with the quieter oval style but don't know.

Here is how your gauges should look.  If you want the trim that goes around them, send me a message.

Srries II 24001 and up or 32000 and up. My 1961 had the larger ROUND muffler. That used a treaded pipe 1.5" , use a black gas line pipe to screw into the manifold. It won't rust and break like the galvinized one. Get one long enough to cut in half. You want no threads in the muffler opening. Also use a die grinder to keep the opening free from opstuction. once you find out what year it is, look on ebay for the dealers sales brocher. there will be very valuable pics and info. And it would be cool to display it next to your perfectly restored D-17

Anthony - Series III started wtih SN42001.  If your SN is 40184 it would be a late "Series II" which is an unofficial designation.   Here's a couple items that will clearly identify if your tractor is a Series II or III:

* Series II had headlights mounted to the front radiator shell, Series III had fender mounted headlights
* Series II had the hydraulic fill cap on the right side of the torque tube near the belt pulley plate.  Series III combined the hydraulic and power director compartments and used the single oil fill dipstick to the front left of the gearshift.  The oil fill on the right of the torque tube was eliminated.
* Series II had no hydraulic filter.  Series III had a 2nd hydraulic filter on the right side of the tractor under the gas tank.

It is not uncommon for someone to have repainted an earlier Series I or II D17 and used D17 Series III or IV decals on the hoods.

If you post a few pics of your tractor we can probably help you more.

Mike

Hey Lanny, are you saying it should have the polished steel behind the guages?  Mine didn't, my 19 doesn't eigther, and haven't looked at the 17 diesel?

Thanks again for all the help.

Isn't there a book out there called "Original Allis-Chalmers" or something like that? Seems like maybe what I'm thinking of was a co-operative effort by maybe Guy Fay and Larry Swenson?

Orange Blood, these panels were used on most (if not all) D15s, D17s, and D19s.  Originally, they were turnings on a piece of aluminum.  However, they do not stand up very well over time.  So I started making mine out of brushed stainless steel - always looks good.

If you get the chance, post a "before" picture of your D17... otherwise me may not believe you when you finish ;)

Hey guys thanks for the info on the dash, maybe the D-Series I have, the panels just didn't survive.  Anyway, I will be posting pics soon, you will be shocked.  This tractor suffered a gas tank fire about 15 years ago, we paid the owner the ins. salvage price, and it's been sitting in our yard since.  It was just overhauled by Allis prior to the event, but found that it now had water in the pistons, from condensation I guess, it has always had a cap on the exhaust.  Oh well, I love a full tear down, and rebuild, but my wife will be sure to hate the bill.