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    Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 3:37pm
was wondering if anybody else on the forum has done the plant tour in east moline. I had a couple of things that stuck out. The painting facility is really something that needs to be seen to believe. Everything is dipped in tanks of cleaner and paint and then sprayed with robots and eventually two people. Half of the tour was thru the paint area. Kinda makes you wonder what jd's priority number one is a good paint job. Also tour guide said that the average life of a new combine is 17 years and 5 owners. That also made me wonder as my 9500 that I sold two years ago was I guess at the end of it's life cycle. Would have hated to see what they thought of the 7720 and 7700 that preceded it. I have also toured hesston, and it was interesting to say the least the difference in the factorys.
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I spent a lot of time at John Deere in the mid  to late 1990's.
 
My guess is, that when you spent as much as they did on that paint facility, you want to show it off... The robot thing always get's attention too.
 
When I worked for Sperry New Holland in the mid 1980's, they were proud of their welding robots, and thus wanted to show them off. They were also proud of their foundry in Belleville, with all it's automation and environmental stuff. So, that's what you saw on the tour. 
 
Oh well, those were the good old days, I think it is all defunct now...
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To get that average life of 17.5 years, for every combine that burns when new, a vintage combine has to last 35 years. For every new combine that burns in a year, the corresponding vintage combine only has to last 34 years.

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Toured the Waterloo plant about 20 years ago. Pretty good tour. Lots of propaganda of how they invented the wheel and signs everywhere of the is your brain - John Deere; This is you brain on drugs - CaseIH. Lots of good union folks there. They were bragging on things that my old 7050 sales brochure was bragging about like how they hardened certain parts electrically. Then about 15 years ago visited the Case plant in Rockford or was it Rock Island. Don't remember as I was there not so much for service school but partsmen training and I was very sick all the way down and for the 2 days we were there. Wasn't a main plant whatever it was but it was nice and clean. They told us that they dipped the combine frames in a huge vat of paint if I remember right. Went to a service school for AGCO in Sioux City Iowa. That wasn't a main plant. I can't remember what the building were used for but we got to look at the new Power Shift transmissions that the 9600 series came out with and they told us they were about 700# heavier than the power shift of the same size Deere tractors.
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I had the privilege to see the Gleaner plant in  about 1970. They spent alot of the tour time showing off their CNC machines turning shafts and their "computerized" parts bin retreiver.
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I did the tour at the Moline JD harvestor works plant about 5 years ago.  I remember the paint dip pits, as well.  Quite a painting process.  Downdraft, waterbased paint that could be reclaimed in a river of water below the booth.  Big environmental deal. 
I also remember the combine seats nested in the introduction theater where they talk to you & then show you an introductory movie.
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Toured the Harvestor plant in 1983. Was good tour. The foundry was better. You could feel the arcs when they fired that furnace up. Cool sound and heat for highschool ag class trip.
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I was there in 2005 or 2006, very impressive painting facillty.  I never got to see a combine going through it though as there was a gap in the line when I was going through on the tour.
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They were working under full capacity, all combines being built were orders, no extra inventory, and said that an order now would not be sure to be done for harvest. Combines were so similar going down the line that the only way our guide could tell them apart was the size of fuel tanks. 9570 had a 105 gallon, up to 9870 with a 325 gallon tank. (ouch)
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I priced a JD online  a year or so ago when I found out AGCO was dropping orange.  I think it was like $700 and you could get your brand new JD tractor painted orange for county stuff I guess.  With the JD's their frame, engine, sheet metal almost everything is green.  To change the color to orange would be monumental.  For AGCO everything underneath is black so to get an orange, yellow or purple one would be relatively easy with only sheet metal, fenders and roof of cab.  Just ticked me off more about AGCO.

Anyway, JD is an American company that still builds a lot of stuff in America.  Their overpriced and technologically speaking there not leaders but the American part is appealing to me.
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We toured the combine plant 2 years ago and the painting process was quite impressive. Three years ago we toured the Waterloo tractor and the engine plants in Waterloo Iowa. My wife thought that the engine plant would not be worth seeing, we had a guide take us on a golf cart and he explained a lot of the assembly of the engines. Wife was impressed after seeing the engines being made. Quite something how a motor is made out of a block of iron.
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I got to tour the Waterloo JD plant a few years ago in high school for an ag class trip, was pretty neat.  Have family that works there as well.

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Originally posted by Gerald J. Gerald J. wrote:

To get that average life of 17.5 years, for every combine that burns when new, a vintage combine has to last 35 years. For every new combine that burns in a year, the corresponding vintage combine only has to last 34 years.

Gerald J.
Nothing burns like a Deere!  Got that from a guy who had just lost a new 9760.
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Deere was notorious for burning back in the 70's and 80's. I guess the more things change the more they stay the same.
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Best option to get with a jd combine is a $60 leaf blower, once a day and never had a problem
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Originally posted by jeffnil jeffnil wrote:

Best option to get with a jd combine is a $60 leaf blower, once a day and never had a problem

I don't think that was an option back in the 70's. My neighbor less than a 1/4 mile from me had 2 7720's burn in one season in the early 80's. Wasn't long they were belly up. Was quite a scene. 
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