Traded the Gleaner A85 off this weekend

Talked to Keith Matson the other day and he said they were headed down there too.  Sorry to see the A85 go, but definately can understand your frustration.  Like others on here have mentioned AC itself died 25 years ago, and no matter how much wishing it would return I'm sorry to say it won't.  Closest thing would be all of us pooling together to purchase the name/rights and going from there.  Chances of that happening are slim to none (monetary wise mainly).  Anyway let Richenhagen sleep in the bed he's made.

and to whom?

For a A86?

John - you were in town and you didn't even call me so I could buy you lunch!!!! Are you cheating on me!!!  LOL!  Mike

For a new A86. Couldnt afford the green paint, red guy didnt even have the guts to call me back. I could trade for a new silver class 8 ,cheaper then a used (185hrs) class 7 deere,with no warranty. Hard to be that stubburn!!!                                                  IG

and i thought we would call you ILGREENER,   hehe,  i took my __ kicking on trading up to green earier this fall. was a sad day indeed, eating a lot of crow this winter

Congratulations IG, I was beginning to get worried about the silver line. After reading about the R66 that jumped I was hoping it wouldn't get too lonely!

yeah thats for sure, One of the best lookin and meanest tractors out there, Just dont have the sex appeal in crap red though. BIG mistake!!! one of the reasons i went Green

The new dog Sisu powered?

Redline people will never know the feelings that people like you and me have. Very few are affected the way we are. I knew where my heart was the whole time,but I also know how great it would have felt to,say I washed my hands completely of them,and kiss my ass goodbye. But it really sucks knowing there will never be another new orange tractor on this farm after years and years,of them.

Spud,

Forgot one thing.  Congrats on your new combine ILGleaner!  

ILGleaner, its hard to describe I guess.  First off were in a region where there is still alot of dealerships around, but one guy owns all of the Deere stores for miles and Deere is pushing for that.  I'm sure it will happen to all the brands eventually but I'm rearranging chairs on the sinking ship that is the independent dealership.  The thing that really gets me with the multiple store thing(in our area) farmers cannot go and buy at what store they want, they have to go to the store that is their district.  I know several farmers that worked with certain stores and salesman, but when this came into effect they were told they had to do business at another store because of the whole "district" or "zone" thing.  I guess I'm not going to let someone tell me where I can and cannot do business.  The dealers reason for doing this is because farmers were pricing at several stores and the salesman were basically competing with each other.  I would just think communication among stores would have been a better option. 

Another reason is I went to a local community college for a farm implement mechanics course.  It was a great program, you were taught the fundamentals of all brands of products.  There was also a John Deere sponsored course at the same school.  A few years ago they dropped the all-brands course and kept the Deere program due to larger class sizes.  There are alot of things that bother me about the course, first off you have to take preliminary tests to get into the program, meaning you have decent book smarts.  Many of the mechanics that I know that took the regular program wouldnt have made it past these tests but are wonderful mechanics just the same, I'm sure better ones than some of the guys that come out of the Deere program.   Another thing that gets me is Deere provides training for the instructors and machinery for the students to work on.  In the other program local dealers and other machinery brands provided training and equipment just the same and didnt get their name on the program.  Also this is a tax funded school.  Funding for the instructors wages, office suppies, facility and etc either comes from tuition aor tax funding.  When you drive by a tax funded "community college" and see a John Deere dealer sign hanging on the building it puts a sour taste in your mouth.  Basically cheap advertising for Deere.

I also feel that the respect that we have amongst the A-C community doesnt pass along amongst the green.  That is probably more my bias opinion, but atleast I admit it! lol

Hope I'm not stepping on toes, but thats a few of my opinions.
Like I said, I understand people switching colors, I'm just not a next generation green guy.  I think my B two putter is as far as it will go for me! lol

Jim

JimIA wrote: ILGleaner, its hard to describe I guess.  First off were in a region where there is still alot of dealerships around, but one guy owns all of the Deere stores for miles and Deere is pushing for that.  I'm sure it will happen to all the brands eventually but I'm rearranging chairs on the sinking ship that is the independent dealership.  The thing that really gets me with the multiple store thing(in our area) farmers cannot go and buy at what store they want, they have to go to the store that is their district.  I know several farmers that worked with certain stores and salesman, but when this came into effect they were told they had to do business at another store because of the whole "district" or "zone" thing.  I guess I'm not going to let someone tell me where I can and cannot do business.  The dealers reason for doing this is because farmers were pricing at several stores and the salesman were basically competing with each other.  I would just think communication among stores would have been a better option.  Another reason is I went to a local community college for a farm implement mechanics course.  It was a great program, you were taught the fundamentals of all brands of products.  There was also a John Deere sponsored course at the same school.  A few years ago they dropped the all-brands course and kept the Deere program due to larger class sizes.  There are alot of things that bother me about the course, first off you have to take preliminary tests to get into the program, meaning you have decent book smarts.  Many of the mechanics that I know that took the regular program wouldnt have made it past these tests but are wonderful mechanics just the same, I'm sure better ones than some of the guys that come out of the Deere program.   Another thing that gets me is Deere provides training for the instructors and machinery for the students to work on.  In the other program local dealers and other machinery brands provided training and equipment just the same and didnt get their name on the program.  Also this is a tax funded school.  Funding for the instructors wages, office suppies, facility and etc either comes from tuition aor tax funding.  When you drive by a tax funded "community college" and see a John Deere dealer sign hanging on the building it puts a sour taste in your mouth.  Basically cheap advertising for Deere. I also feel that the respect that we have amongst the A-C community doesnt pass along amongst the green.  That is probably more my bias opinion, but atleast I admit it! lol Hope I'm not stepping on toes, but thats a few of my opinions. Like I said, I understand people switching colors, I'm just not a next generation green guy.  I think my B two putter is as far as it will go for me! lol Jim

The problem is deere will subsidise the pay of the "greenhorns" so the dealers just use them for cheap help and then throw them away when the next batch comes along! kinda like the state payin for you to hire ex-prisoners!