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MO River is in a Bad Way

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    Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 9:43am
Lowest have seen in several years, River Ga here is essentially Mud Line not so much bottom yet still not navigable.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 10:42am
OK, I have to ask WHAT upstream is sucking up the water ?
what SHOULD the river be 20-30' deep ??
2' of mud does not a river make....in my opinion..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 1:14pm
The Mighty MO tends to run shallow, even at Normal is only 6-8 feet Channel, Not in flood but flowing hard can be up to 16 feet channel depth.  Seen it notated at -2.0 and barely dribbling by at the Nuke water inlet.  Do not thin much of KC receives water from it but the major Dams in SD and MT have to retain so much then there is snow to melt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC7060IL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 8:42pm
This Agweb link of the US 2025 Drought map might tell the story? Follow the Missouri Rivers path west.
2025 might be one of those years that no-til shines since it conserves soil moisture??

https://www.agweb.com/weather/2025-weather-drought-and-root-zone-maps-signal-dryness-ahead
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The Illinois River is probably a similar story. Right now it is about 3 ft... That does not mean the water in the channel is 3 ft deep.. The ZERO point is like "the lowest recorded value in 100 years".. or something like that.. So YES, you can have a -1 or -2 in a VERY BAD YEAR... "NORMAL" a Dave said might be 10 - 12 ft in areas of the Illinois river.. The VERY HIGH might be  28 ft...  YES, the river does go up and down 25 ft around here.. Anything over 20 ft might be FLOODING... and thing below 2 might be Extremely LOW.... 6 months out of the year the level might be 10 ft..

Our "RIVER" level is basically  Lake Michigan draining down to New Orleans.. LOTS of rain in MIchigan or South Canada is stored as needed in the Great Lakes... When they open the gates up north due to "too much rain" , thats when the river goes WAY UP... When you got no rain in Chicago or Michigan, then we got no water down to St Louis.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote KJCHRIS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 2:25am
 The Missouri R. is low north of Omaha, Ne also. I haven't been south of I-80 or west of Omaha, Ne to have seen the Platte R. or Elk Horn R. in over a year, so have no idea if low or not. 
 The rivers and streams dumping into the Mo R in N.W. Iowa & SE. S.D. are pretty low also. The Big Sioux, Floyd, Little Sioux and Boyer they all were in major flood in June.
 The W Nishnabotna R in WC IA. is 1/2 mile from my farm. The last 3 years you can see the bottom thru the water in its deeper channel, the shallower parts have been growing weeds in the summers. Not a washing rain at farm in 3 years. 
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