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wjohn 
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 Topic: 1963 D-19 w/ Farmhand F11-C Loader
Posted: 04 Nov 2024 at 10:09pm |
The D-19 doesn't start very easily but runs fine once going. I suspect an ignition or connection issue since we messed with the distributor cap and then it fired right up. It jumps out of 3rd gear, has a massive power steering leak, a busted front crank driven hydraulic gear pump, and a slightly cracked bulge in the side of the block where a rod must've tried to exit a long time ago. The grille screen is AWOL as are the side panels, but I do have the grille shell and the hood panels.
I do like that huge loader (17' lift height and 3500 lbs. lift capacity). It's an F11-C which is a later version of the F11 and supposedly had some design upgrades from earlier versions. They still command decent prices when I look at sold online auction listings. The plan for this tractor is to fix the power steering leak, find a replacement front pump, and live with the 3rd gear and block damage issues for the foreseeable future. I want to rig up a set of pallet forks for it for loading/unloading. It might even be tall enough to pull the engine out of my Gleaner CII if I ever had to do that someday.
For the front pump, I think these are fairly standard off the shelf items, correct? Just find something with a similar size and GPM that has the correct mounting pattern? The loader has a dedicated PTO pump, so the front pump must just run the tractor hydraulics/rear lift.
Would I have any luck spraying lots of brake cleaner into the block cracks and filling with an epoxy like JB weld? I'm not concerned about it structurally, but it does appear that oil is slowly working its way to the surface.
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wjohn
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Posted: 04 Nov 2024 at 10:15pm |
It's lived a hard life but does still have the original (?) beefed up last version of the Snap Coupler latches. Seems like everybody up at the Hutch show was asking $200-250 for a pair of these but they sure weren't selling. Everyone acts like they're rare. As I understand they were just the last version of the latches, and after a certain year this is what you got if you ordered a new set or were replacing old ones on your WD-45 or whatever.
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Posted: 05 Nov 2024 at 6:04am |
Just a suggestion, but you might want to talk to Alex at A&W Tractor ( Allis-Chalmers Tractor Parts & Tractor Service) in Cecil. WI, for the hydraulic pump. He advertises all the replacement parts for AC engine mounted pumps.
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Posted: 05 Nov 2024 at 8:02am |
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Lift arm latches are an interesting topic in their own right. I've accumulated quite a number of them. Many usable ones and a lot of fixer-uppers. Never paid the whore-house prices some guys ask. Have sold a few sets and didn't gouge the buyers either.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 05 Nov 2024 at 8:15am |
i would agree that many "aftrmarket pumps" would work..
for the block, instead of filling the CRACK... i would run a body grinder over that area about 4 inches square... clean as you mentioned, then spread JB weld 1/8 inch thick over the 4 x 4 area.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2024 at 8:46am |
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I have a good servisable i600 that is much more user friendly than a D19....
That i will sell.
Not sure of the lifting height but it has a large smooth edge bucket and a set of forks that come with it. Industrial loader. No welds.
Good solid tractor.
No repairs needed.
Just get on and drive it...
Good tires.
Gas 4 cylinder
Shuttle shift.
Will deliver to Mo. Swap meet in March.
Edited by Macon Rounds - 06 Nov 2024 at 9:24am
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wjohn
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Posted: 07 Nov 2024 at 6:40pm |
 WF owner wrote:
Just a suggestion, but you might want to talk to Alex at A&W Tractor (Allis-Chalmers Tractor Parts & Tractor Service) in Cecil. WI, for the hydraulic pump. He advertises all the replacement parts for AC engine mounted pumps. |
Thanks - the main challenge is finding one that has the appropriate SAE mounting flange and is short enough to fit behind the D-19's grille. I've been looking through gear pump catalogs in my spare time and noting down the best prospects.
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wjohn
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Posted: 07 Nov 2024 at 6:43pm |
IBWD MIke wrote:
Lift arm latches are an interesting topic in their own right. I've accumulated quite a number of them. Many usable ones and a lot of fixer-uppers. Never paid the whore-house prices some guys ask. Have sold a few sets and didn't gouge the buyers either.
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I had a laugh when I overheard one seller with a pile of couplers tell a prospective buyer they had been flying off his trailer already that morning at his crazy price. I am pretty positive he hadn't sold a single one, since I had seen him setting up.
I'm not sure I even saw any of the "D-19" latches sell by the time I left Sunday morning. But, plenty of good deals on other parts! I hope I can make it back up there next year and see everyone again.
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Posted: 07 Nov 2024 at 6:44pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
i would agree that many "aftrmarket pumps" would work..
for the block, instead of filling the CRACK... i would run a body grinder over that area about 4 inches square... clean as you mentioned, then spread JB weld 1/8 inch thick over the 4 x 4 area. |
Good point. Spreading it all over would look better. The most important thing will be getting it clean enough for the JB weld to hold.
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Posted: 08 Nov 2024 at 11:14am |
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Send me a PM with your contact number.
I have a few GOOD pumps.
Removed from an operating tractors...
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