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I picked up a transmission today....

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    Posted: 19 Oct 2010 at 9:15pm
Well, I guess I got a front end and a clutch pedal too....
 
Now I just need the block to go with it (and hand brakes, and ..... lots of other stuff....)
 
 
 
 
I really didn't want to take it, but after driving 6 hours, I needed something to show for it....  Guess I have another "project"....
 
Anybody got a real dead, real early, donor B ? Can trade an uncracked 1940 block.... (that is about all that is usable other than the F/E, tranny and clutch pedal...  :<(  )
 
Also, a big thanks to DaveinMA for letting it "rest" at his place for a couple days before heading west.


Edited by GlenninPA - 19 Oct 2010 at 9:39pm
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Glenn, I've got a 1940 B I'll sell you. Has hydraulics, hand breaks, cleaned carb, rebuilt mag, and a few other things. Hasn't been run in a few years. Let me know if your interested. 
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We all got together and made a 'B' for the "Build a B" project.  Maybe some of us have some bits laying around that you could use to complete that poor old thing!!
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Fred might even throw something in!!
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If you have a B block with the -9 suffix, I'm all ears! Also the rims and clamps for a B between 101 and 501?? Anybody?
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weren't those the rims and clamps that were used on the Build-a-B. make a trade
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Glenn and I had a nice visit when he arrived here this afternoon. The corpse-and-trailer are parked behind the barn until he returns Thursday. You guys with early B parts need to help him bring this one back to life. LOL
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Very cool Glenn!  That's quite a project ahead of you.  I must admit, if I had found that low of a serial number, I would have taken it on too!
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Glenn, what is the number on the current block? I'm assuming that it sounds like your looking for a replacement?
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tyler,
it's a -12 block, with generator bosses cast and tapped. Have not got the actual engine serial number, but it sure don't match up to Tractor No. B119.
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Great find Glenn, gotta love the low serial #'s.
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Glenn, I guess in this case instead of needing a "roundtuit" to get this one going you need the "partsroundtuit". LOL I could fabricate and send you a roundtuit, but don't think I have any parts for an early B. Wish you  luck and God Bless.
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Glenn.
 No 38's but I have 2 extra 39 blocks .  Also have the 38 wheel clamps and one rusty rim to copy to make replacement rims.   Richard.
 
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Yer' a glutton for punishment buddy!  LOL! It must be that Orange Fever with us B guys. I don't know how to es-plain it.  Good find on a low serial though... Did you git' the other one fired up?
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Glenn, I know of a 38 B here in Wisconsin for sale for 1500.   I will forward you the email.   The guy put a ton of money into having the sheetmetal all fixed up and it shows as the sheetmetal looks flawless. I don't know the serial number on it though. 

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Steve,
I had left you a message on your phone.... I guess it didn't record the sweet sound of that 125 purring....
 
After I tore the carb apart and shot cleaner thru it both ways in all the jets, it lit right up. Good oil pressure, no knocks, the throttle took it up and down smoothly. That was the good news out of the whole thing.
 
Richard - I'll be in touch.....
PS I got several 38 blocks, just none that are that early.... Mine are all -10
 
Glenn


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Glenn, looks like the buzzards picked her pretty clean before you could get there. LOL!
Nice low serial number B to start with though. If you could find a low number 38 engine, that would be a start, but how far do you go when you basically have a tranny, finals, and a torque tube to work with? Sorry to say it won't pass muster with the correct police, but if you're like me, you don't care about that anyway. If I had the time and available resourses that you do, i'd probably go for it.
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So with everybody looking for parts, I would like to find an early block for my B #254. It has a 39 block in it now. The back wheels evidently aren't correct either but Oh Well.

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Glenn: Contrattulations on your find. I have the following that youcan have if you have any use fot them.  Set of cylinder liners 3.25  These are in good shape.Set of front wheels and tires from a 39B. I believe they are the original tires.  Rims rusted but may be able to be cleaned up enough for a show  tractor. Plow depth control lever for a 39B. I think that I have a set of rockshaft brackets.  You can have any or all of theese if ykou are interested.  I will never use tham.
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Glenn,  First let me congratulate you on your determination to bring another B back to life.  I wish I could give you something that would help cause you know I love to see that B reserected(?).  Let us know how it goes.
You have my sincere thanks, appreciation, and blessings on this project.
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Dream,
 
The torque tube and final drive castings are junk..... Like I said, I bought a transmission....  LOL
 
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THIS IS GOT TO STOP!!!!!!!!!! LMAO
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How can you not  cheer for this guy! Good Luck!

What do you mean another tractor, honey? That tractor has been here for years.
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Well, I got it home about 7:30 tonight.
 
It doesn't look any better here than it did at Dave's....  LOL
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Glenn, thats ok. I bet it will look better at my place! Let me know when you want me to pick it up! LOL
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Had another chance to chat with Glenn as he was leaving my place - it was a treat to meet him in person and to talk about so many folks who are on here (and most of whom he has met) - really fun. Glenn, you're welcome back any time - next time bring Debbie!
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Sooo, what's wrong with the toque tube? I'm assuming it might be the bosses for the steering box broken off? What about the finals? They'll be fine! Little sandblasting, little welding. Good as new!LOL! Seriously, if they are still original, there are plenty of guys out there that can repair cast iron. Rods and processes for cast welding have come a long way. Main thing is keeping it at a consistent temperature,  not cooling it too fast, and relieving any stress that builds up in the metal. Come on Glenn, you got us all pulling for you now(actually, we just want to see how far you'll go.LOL!). You can do it!!!
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After being on this forum for a number of years now I'm positive I can answer the question "how far will Glenn go?" lol. The answer is pretty darn far!!!!!!!!
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The torque tube had the steering box snapped off. The cast housing of the Gemmer box bent, but the torque tube relieved the stress by breaking out of the bolt holes. Same deal on the one final, the whole rear section has gone missing. There is a reason the drawbar is turned forward, it's because there is nothing left to bolt it to going the other way.....

I'm pretty sure I have those castings with the same pattern numbers though.
 
I think this one is going to sit until I line up a few more parts though... Some of the stuff offered up so far is just not within reach of a short term road trip.


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So Glenn, if you want the drawbar facing back, all you need to do is remove it, swap the finals from side to side and bolt the drawbar back on. Simple fix, right? LOL
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