My Allcrop 72 - long post

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   My Allcrop saw the light of day for the first time in years. I bought it more years ago than I'd care to admit, it was a project and you know what happen to projects. LOL

When I bought it it had been sitting in a lean-to on the side of a barn. It looked pretty good, except for the left side where the lean-to leaked. A Hume pickup reel, a set of pickup guards (for down beans), a straw spreader and a Scour Clean came along wth it, and it has a straw chopper.

When I pulled it home it eventually ended up in the shed I just pulled it out of. The right tire was still up, but the left was flat and wouldn't take air. It must have went flat a long time ago and the tube has rotted. I backed it in with the WD45 and pulled it out with the D17. The last few feet I had to unhook and put a chain on it to get out at the right angle not to hit the door.

The shoe looked straight and square. I started spraying hinges with lube, oiling moving parts and finding grease zerks... lots and lots of grease zerks! I started opening doors and looking over my "treasure".

Ouch! The cylinder bars have threshed something more than just oats and soybeans. The beater has a few dings too. The feeder house chain is straight & looking good. 

I think I found all the zerks, they all took grease and no more than 2 or 3 pumps before grease was coming out of the bearing. 

The belts were all good, except the chopper drive has some cracks. 

Moving under the machine I was surprised to find a lot of rust. My shed was dry but the dirt floor in the lean-to must have turned to mud when it rained and took a long time to dry out. No structural damage but its pretty ugly under there.

I finally felt I was ready so I put the D17's pto in gear and the combine in gear and hit the starter. Everything moved! 

So I cranked her up and let it idle, went around and oiled all the chains. There is a slight ticking at idle, a cylinder bar is hitting something? Revved it up a little and the noise goes away. Go back to idle and it still ticks. Any ideas?

I can't find the "door" for the unloading auger, I know it came with the combine I just don't know where I put it... dontcha hate when that happens?

Well I knew things were going too good. The clean grain elevator clean out door kinda disintergrated as I let the machine run, there's a pile of rust & moldy oats and mouse nest under it. YAZ!??!

The reason I finally decided to get this out, is a combination of finishing harvest early and having some small replant soybean patches that won't be ready for I while, so I thought now is the time. 

So far I need a tire repaired, to find or get an unloading auger door and to get a clean grain elevator door. I also don't have an operator manual for a 72 but I have a nice set of manuals for a 90, will the settings be much different? I was also wondering how much effort it should take to turn the crank for the cylinder speed. Mine appears stuck but I haven't really tried too hard yet. I still have Dads hand tach, so I should be good for setting cylinder speed. 

What gear should I have the D17 in while I'm combining?

Any general suggestions for running a 72 in beans? 

Whew thats a long post! Looking forward to your input.

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Dave in il Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Manville Il Points: 1748	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dave in il Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: My Allcrop 72 - long post Posted: 09 Oct 2010 at 9:40pm
	My Allcrop saw the light of day for the first time in years. I bought it more years ago than I'd care to admit, it was a project and you know what happen to projects. LOL When I bought it it had been sitting in a lean-to on the side of a barn. It looked pretty good, except for the left side where the lean-to leaked. A Hume pickup reel, a set of pickup guards (for down beans), a straw spreader and a Scour Clean came along wth it, and it has a straw chopper. When I pulled it home it eventually ended up in the shed I just pulled it out of. The right tire was still up, but the left was flat and wouldn't take air. It must have went flat a long time ago and the tube has rotted. I backed it in with the WD45 and pulled it out with the D17. The last few feet I had to unhook and put a chain on it to get out at the right angle not to hit the door. The shoe looked straight and square. I started spraying hinges with lube, oiling moving parts and finding grease zerks... lots and lots of grease zerks! I started opening doors and looking over my "treasure". Ouch! The cylinder bars have threshed something more than just oats and soybeans. The beater has a few dings too. The feeder house chain is straight & looking good. I think I found all the zerks, they all took grease and no more than 2 or 3 pumps before grease was coming out of the bearing. The belts were all good, except the chopper drive has some cracks. Moving under the machine I was surprised to find a lot of rust. My shed was dry but the dirt floor in the lean-to must have turned to mud when it rained and took a long time to dry out. No structural damage but its pretty ugly under there. I finally felt I was ready so I put the D17's pto in gear and the combine in gear and hit the starter. Everything moved! So I cranked her up and let it idle, went around and oiled all the chains. There is a slight ticking at idle, a cylinder bar is hitting something? Revved it up a little and the noise goes away. Go back to idle and it still ticks. Any ideas? I can't find the "door" for the unloading auger, I know it came with the combine I just don't know where I put it... dontcha hate when that happens? Well I knew things were going too good. The clean grain elevator clean out door kinda disintergrated as I let the machine run, there's a pile of rust & moldy oats and mouse nest under it. YAZ!??! The reason I finally decided to get this out, is a combination of finishing harvest early and having some small replant soybean patches that won't be ready for I while, so I thought now is the time. So far I need a tire repaired, to find or get an unloading auger door and to get a clean grain elevator door. I also don't have an operator manual for a 72 but I have a nice set of manuals for a 90, will the settings be much different? I was also wondering how much effort it should take to turn the crank for the cylinder speed. Mine appears stuck but I haven't really tried too hard yet. I still have Dads hand tach, so I should be good for setting cylinder speed. What gear should I have the D17 in while I'm combining? Any general suggestions for running a 72 in beans? Whew thats a long post! Looking forward to your input.

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DREAM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Location: Elberton,GA Points: 1828	Post Options Post Reply Quote DREAM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2010 at 12:00am
	The fact that it is running after sitting for that many years is a miracle to me Dave! Nice looking combine. Amazing machinery AC put out back then, wasn't it? I wonder if they knew how long this stuff would last when they built it? Edited by DREAM - 10 Oct 2010 at 12:01am
	I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!

TomYaz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: PA Points: 10325	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomYaz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2010 at 7:48am
	Looks like it has a few issues but still a solid looking machine...nice catch.. BTW if you want cylinder bars, now is the time. I hope to be placing the order soon. I only do it once a year. www.yazallcrop.com

Jim Lindemood Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Dry Ridge, KY Points: 2569	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jim Lindemood Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2010 at 8:03am
	You have a nice machine there. Needs a touch here and there, but quite doable. The old All Crops are neat and fun to do small fields. Have been doing wheat, but did some soybeans this year with my 60. Did her job just like she was supposed to do.

Ryan Renko Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edwardsville, I Points: 2325	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ryan Renko Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2010 at 8:23am
	Great photos!! I was doing the same thing to my 72 on saturday. It was a great day to tinker and have afew cold ones. My clean grain elevator door was totally rusted and had to get a new one from Tom last year. It is a outstanding reproduction I must say. The underside of mine is pretty rusty as yours is also. The ticking sound is hard to narrow down unless I could hear it. I hope to get mine out in the field today to show the neighbors 300,000 grand combine how its done.LOL My problem is figuring how to unload. Even with the unloader spout tipped up it only reaches about 8' 6" max. Every truck or graincart is well over 10' they are using. I dont want to inconvenience them anymore than I have to. Have fun with your 72. Whats your serial number??

Steve M C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: shelbyville IL Points: 691	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve M C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 2010 at 11:30pm
	Speed? All I remember was the reaming I got for cutting wheat in 2nd not 1st on the WD.I was young.LOL!

clovis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Points: 384	Post Options Post Reply Quote clovis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 11:27am
	Wow!!! Very nice All Crop!!!! I am a bit envious. If you happen to need an AC Dealer Service Manual, I have reprints available. PM me if ever interested.

Dave in il Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Manville Il Points: 1748	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dave in il Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:34pm
	Tomorrow is the big day! I found an unloading auger/ bin clean out door. The clean grain elevator door from Yaz won't be here till next week and it's supposed to rain Monday, so today I went to the local weld shop and they fabbed a replacement. It won't be perfect but it looks like it will work. So tomorrow we're going to the field, pictures and hopefullly video to follow. I'm going to start with the settings in my 90 operators manual. Wish me luck!

Ryan Renko Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edwardsville, I Points: 2325	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ryan Renko Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:50pm
	Once again Dave, whats your serial number on your 72?? Just curious. Ryan

Dave in il Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Manville Il Points: 1748	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dave in il Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 12:28am
	Ryan, Sorry I don't know my serial # off hand. I'll check it and post it later. So today we went to the field after installing the new clean grain elevator door. It took some duct tape to seal the edges. Then we pulled the top board off of a wagon so we had something we could load, and we were off. I'm the guinea pig. Couldn't stop grinning! Every thing works! Brian Sherman used his M to pull the wagon. A couple more members of the harvest crew, Luke Wilken (standing) and Nick Hert (in the truck) Andrew Johnston getting ready to unload Everybody got to run it for awhile, even Brian swapped "Emma" for the D17 So the old 72 was doing good, we got 10 - 15 acres done. Hard to believe only 3, 30 inch rows at a pass, although the replant was drilled so the head was full most of the time. We ran the D17 in 1rst high range except where the grass was then we pulled it back to low. I think that she could handle at least 2nd, low range but we didn't want to push it with the old belts. The grain sample was great, even when we were finishing up where there was more foxtail and velvet leaf than beans. We had one glitch, we forgot to tighten the seperator drive belt when we started and after a half acre or so it started to slip and plugged her up. Cleaned it, out tightened the belt and off she went. We finished up and moved to the next field, I was opening it up when the boys stopped me. The corrosion under the machine had taken it's toll, probabley because of the weed stems as we were finishing up the previous field there were now holes in the concave and we were losing beans in a big way. The good news is Yaz Allcrop has the parts to patch or replace the concave. I know I had a great time and so did the the guys. My daughter took some video and when she gets it on U tube I'll post a link. Next up a plow day! Meanwhile why we were having fun with the combine Andrew went and got the 8050 to finish chisle plowing

Don(MO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6862	Post Options Post Reply Quote Don(MO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 8:30am
	I like seeing the old gals out in the field doing there thing!!! Now keep that big-old 8050 away from that grand old 72. lol
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	Dave, what kind of running gear do you have under the gravity box? It sure is built low slung. I like the lower center of gravity.
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clovis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Points: 384	Post Options Post Reply Quote clovis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 2:24pm
	Thanks for the pics!!!!! I love them!!!! Thanks for bringing some cool All Crop pics to my living room!! Do you have any more pics to share?

Dave in il Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Manville Il Points: 1748	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dave in il Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2010 at 10:42pm
	The wagon is a J&M, you can see it in the background in the first picture before we took the 24" top extention off. The combines serial # is 949. Brian took the beans to the Elevator today.