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John m 
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 Topic: Which oil for torque housing and trans
Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 2:21pm |
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Gotta put fresh oil in my trans and torque housing. It's an early 190xt. #7229. What should I be running? Can imagine what it's going to cost. Diesel went to 4.69 a gallon today. Gonna be expensive spring planting. Oh well, tell me what Yas think. Thanks, John
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WF owner
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 2:49pm |
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You need a hydraulic/transmission fluid that says it meets Allis Chalmers (or AGCO) Power Fluid 821 specs. It should say so on the side of the pail.
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 3:22pm |
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How about Chevron the 1000. I can get a small 30 gallon drum of that. Looks like Agco says it meets 821xt specs. Whatever that means.
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John m
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 3:23pm |
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Meant Chevron thf 1000.
Edited by John m - 04 Mar 2022 at 3:24pm
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DrAllis
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 4:14pm |
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If it meets AGCO 821 or 821XL or Permatran specs, it's good to go. 5 gallons in torque tube...….8 to 10 gallons in trans differential. Final drives are 2 gallons each and normally are 80/90 wt gear oil, but really don't know why all the compartments couldn't use the same 821 oil.
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 4:37pm |
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Thank you, I was hoping you would respond. It says it meets 821xL specs so I'll go with it. Kinda nice because that's what's used in our other 4 tractors. Thanks for responses, John
Edited by John m - 04 Mar 2022 at 4:39pm
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 4:45pm |
any "QUALITY" oil will meet 20 different manufacturer specs... Most of them are very similar if not identical.... Allison C3, CAT TO2 , CASE HYTRANS.... and dozens of others.. They will ALL be listed on the back of the drum.
for example.......
Edited by steve(ill) - 04 Mar 2022 at 4:51pm
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 4:53pm |
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If the jug or barrel is " generic hydraulic / trans fluid".... and has NO SPEC on the label, then it is not QUALITY oil..
Edited by steve(ill) - 04 Mar 2022 at 4:54pm
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Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 5:14pm |
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Pure Flo 334 has always worked for me,
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Posted: 05 Mar 2022 at 2:47am |
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who produced the 821 fluid for AC?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 05 Mar 2022 at 8:05am |
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I don't know, but when they've had 821 since 1967/68, I'm sure there has been more than one supplier over all those fifty plus years. Current oil is Perma-Tran thru AGCO.
Edited by DrAllis - 05 Mar 2022 at 8:06am
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