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    Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:31am
Is there a place to go to find out production numbers of combines in North America in the 1960's thru the 1980's or whatever years? Just interested. Was always told that Gleaner through the 60's and 70's was number 1 in NA.
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You may try this book, "Allis Chalmers Farm Equipment 1914-1985" by Norm Swinford.  On page 333, Norm listed all of the gleaner beginning serial numbers per year for combine from the model A to the N7.  That covers years from 1951 - 1986. 
 
It also give beginning serial numbers per year for the Allis Chalmers All-Crop models on page 349.  That covers models 60 to the super 100 from years 1939 - 1969. 
 
It gives some insight about possible numbers, but does not tell total production numbers per model.
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Thanks. I have that book. Was looking for competitive numbers for Deere MF and IH and so on. Sales numbers in the 60's and 70's for all companies in NA are what I'm most interested. Like some publication that would list all at one place. 
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Lonn, I posted a question similar to yours about a year ago. I'm also interested in comparing production numbers of the big companies through out the last 25 to 30 years. It would be interesting to look over. Can someone help out?? Ryan
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I believe that at that time MF was the leader in combines with a 40% share.
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I think Massey was world wide but I'm sure, at least I think I'm sure, that Gleaner held the top spot for several years in NA. Could be wrong. That's why I'm asking I guess.
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Well I can tell you for sure that neither are within smelling distance of Deere or Case IH now. nor will they ever be. I think I read on another board not too long ago that AGCO has 8% of NA sales in combines and Gleaner is well over 50% of that with Massey and Challenger making up the rest. I am sure that the majority of the masseys go to Canada  while the majority of the Gleaners are in the US
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In the 70's it seems to me that no other company was even close to a Gleaner in terms of features and ease of service! What happened after the conventional combines ended production is pretty much knowledge to use all. Ryan
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At one time in the 50s or early 60s I thought Massey had the custom harvester market out west and they were number one in self propelled combine sales for a while.
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 Allis Chalmers had a big part of sales when they were selling the 66 combine. Around here it didnt matter what color tractor you had ,there was always an orange combine behind it

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IG is right on the pull types.  At least in my grandpas neck of the woods and from what I remember AC all-crop combines lead the market by a large margin.  Not sure on the gleaners.  There are a few older ones around now but I don't know of they ever were #1 here.  From what I read International was about out of the combine business until they came out with the rotary which saved them in that line. 

You know AC went out of business and they were huge.  For all practical purposes IH is gone even though it's still red.  IBM is a fraction of what it was.  It just seems a lot of big companies die eventually.  I call it the dinosaur theory.  When whatever happened the big boys died first.  I don't think there is any shame in being a small company or a small farmer.
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I saw a lot of massey pull types. Dad told me Granpa said the AC was too heavy ? or heavier and made a big difference for him.
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