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Trying to Identify this Allis and look for buyer

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    Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 10:46pm
Hello
  

I’m reaching out for assistance in determining what type of Allis Chalmers I am dealing with - so far I think its a U .  The short back history is its located in Idaho and was used on the railroad as a welder.  Its been sitting in this garage for more than 40 years (is my best guess).

  

Does anyone has information to offer can offer about this tractor?  Do you know any antique clubs that would be interested in this to restore? 

 
I need to find it a  new loving home with a group that would restore it to is former beauty.
 
Thanks
 
 
 
 


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First off, welcome to the forum. Pictures or maybe a serial number would help.
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Hello

I’m reaching out for assistance in determining what type of Allis Chalmers I am dealing with - so far I think its a U . The short back history is its located in Idaho and was used on the railroad as a welder. Its been sitting in this garage for more than 40 years (is my best guess).

Does anyone has information to offer can offer about this tractor? Do you know any antique clubs that would be interested in this to restore?

I need to find it a new loving home with a group that would restore it to is former beauty.

Thanks
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Looks like an IU welder, perhaps with many mods, from the RR, through the years...Wink
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Just when a guy thinks he's seen it all.    that is one classy looking outfit!!
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Definitely an IU (industrial U). That's a pretty neat unit and possibly a one of a kind. Are you looking to sell it or donate it or what exactly? I'm sure there are quite a few organizations that would love to restore and display it.
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Should be a lot of interest,Eldon needs to go pick that one up.
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Definitely an IU outfitted with a welding unit. Possible Cooper conversion.
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It is a IU ,rare unit. I would take bids on something like this .
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[QUOTE=grinder220]Definitely an IU (industrial U). That's a pretty neat unit and possibly a one of a kind. Are you looking to sell it or donate it or what exactly?
 
 All else fails read the print .
He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
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setting inside for 40-50 years has help quite a bit with LITTLE RUST... And it might be a one of a kind modification.. Im with FRED....... post it and look for bids... try here first and if you don't get results, try a bigger auction house ( but that cost money).
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Thank you for this information - We are initially looking to sell it, but don't even know where to start.  
To be honest Ive never posted much on forums before is there a special page on this one to post it for sell?
 
Any suggestions for ideas would be awesome


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Where can I find the serial number or any identifying numbers on this?
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Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

First off, welcome to the forum. Pictures or maybe a serial number would help.
 
Thank you !  Where can I find the serial numbers on this? 
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Looks like an IU welder, perhaps with many mods, from the RR, through the years...Wink
 
FOR SURE!  Thanks for the comment!
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Originally posted by grinder220 grinder220 wrote:

Definitely an IU (industrial U). That's a pretty neat unit and possibly a one of a kind. Are you looking to sell it or donate it or what exactly? I'm sure there are quite a few organizations that would love to restore and display it.
 

 

Thank you for this information - We are initially looking to sell it, but don't even know where to start.   Is there a special page on this site to post stuff like that?

 
I hate to sound silly but Ive never really used forum's before so this is my first time Confused
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Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:

[QUOTE=grinder220]Definitely an IU (industrial U). That's a pretty neat unit and possibly a one of a kind. Are you looking to sell it or donate it or what exactly?
 
 All else fails read the print .
 
Thank you for this information - We are initially looking to sell it, but don't even know where to start.   Is there a special page on this site to post stuff like that?
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scroll this page down... the white box says select forum......pick classifieds and post there like you did here
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

scroll this page down... the white box says select forum......pick classifieds and post there like you did here
 
Thank you - Done!
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Thats awesome. Hope it finds a good home
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On the rear end, below the operator's platform, towards the left.

I'd be interested in a photo of the serial number (rubbing it with chalk or something usually makes it possible to photograph). I also think I've discovered a much earlier industrial U. Would be interesting to compare. 
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Link to "Original Allis Chalmers 1933 - 1937" book


U and UC start at page 51


Gary

https://books.google.ca/books?id=gb-odM9inZYC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=pictures+of+Allis+Industrial+U,++IU&source=bl&ots=XxSLFoDXa2&sig=05fdjvTGmxHLuVW-FWZRu9Fd1_U&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9sa6fz4fcAhWI64MKHVqvCC0Q6AEIaTAJ#v=onepage&q=pictures%20of%20Allis%20Industrial%20U%2C%20%20IU&f=false


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Approx. 128 "U's' listed on 'Owner Registry'


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The value increases if the engine turns. Goes up more if the engine runs. Couple auction results from last year. $1500 - $2500 for a running U. It's a starting point to determine the value of yours.
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would be interesting to see the serial # and if it truly a um engine tractor or converted from a continental
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I like how it has Allis Chalmers cast in the rear wheel centers.
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